Thank you Scott. You have given me exactly what I am looking for and have
made it a lot clearer. For completeness I have found another URL that is
immensly helpfull
(http://home.tiscali.be/tim.vloeberghs/network/modem.html).

Duncan


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> Duncan wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >     I am busy studying for the CCNP Remote Access exam and am
> > really stuck
> > on the modem signalling bits. I think that the key to my
> > problem is that I
> > don't understand the definitions of a DCE & DTE properly and
> > how they relate
> > to the EIA/TIA-232 cabling pinouts. (which for some unknown
> > reason you must
> > learn) I  hate learning anything parrot fashion, I would rather
> > understand
> > it. I have looked through the archives and there are some
> > pretty useful
> > pointers but I am still not all the way there.
> >
> >     Does any one have a comprehensive description that they can
> > point me to,
> > preferably with examples of set-ups and how it all relates to
> > the OSI model.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Duncan
> >
> >
>
> I forgot to address you question about how it all relates to the OSI
model.
> I've always thought of specs such as 232, 422, etc. as being entirely
> physical-layer specs (max p-t-p voltage, impedance, connector body, etc).
> However, given the interaction that takes place over the signals that we
> just discussed, I suppose an argument could be made that there is some
layer
> 2 taking place.  To a limited extent, I guess you could say that there is
> some arbitration for the circuit taking place.  I wonder if any of the
> group's big brains will weigh in on that...




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