> May I suggest, as a complementary or replacement discussion to 
> certification versus degree, a thread on the relative values of 
> butterscotch and chocolate?  I have nothing against chocolate as a 
> means of getting in the door, but it takes subtle understanding of 
> butterscotch, how to avoid it becoming cloying caramel, how to avoid 
> the CEO losing his bridgework in it, to really climb the corporate 
> ladder.

I promised myself I wouldn't post on this thread again, but....

IIRC, Bill Parkhurst (as in the OSPF guy) is CCIE #[something] and has a
Ph.D. in Philosophy.



 -sd




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