Clarification below...

s vermill wrote:
> 
> William Pearch wrote:
> > 
> > Does anyone have a recomendation for a sniffer solution to
> look
> > at T1's, V.35, Frame Relay?  Any experience with the Logix
> > product?
> >  
> > Bill in Anchorage
> > 
> > 
> 
> Sorry, no Logix experience that I can remember.  There really
> are two distinct types of WAN test equipment.  For intrusively
> troubleshooting circuits any one of many Bit Error Rate test
> sets are usually employed.  What used to be TTC (now Acterna)
> is responsible for the famous Fireberd series and also the
> T-Berd series.  These are great products (I prefer the Fireberd
> in most cases for digital stuff but the T-Berd 310 has several
> optical options for SONET, PoS, etc).  These also can monitor
> non-intrusively in many cases.  As for v.35, there probably
> isn't much you could do for in-service monitoring.  

That�s true in the case of the Fireberd and the T-Berd, which are primarily
used for intrusive testing (in my experience).  They don�t drill down (up?)
any further than the L2 frame and don't look at all into the payload.  In
the case of the below-mentioned Agilent Advisor, which is primarily used for
in-service monitoring (in my experience), you can look much further up the
protocol stack.  I use it for HDLC decodes, for example, where HDLC might be
carrying any number of upper-layer data (and sometimes man-readable ASCII
text), which can be furhter decoded.  It doesn�t much matter whether or not
it�s v.35, TIA/EIA-232 or 422, whatever (as long as you have the appropriate
interface module).

>In the
> T-Carrier and Frame Relay world, the test set can lock to the
> frame, verify the FCS, etc.  I've also used the Agilent Advisor
> (formerly the HP Internet Advisor) quite a bit, which is a
> Windows-based test set for both LANs and WANs.  It seems
> primarily geared towards "sniffing" or in-service stuff but can
> serve as an intrusive test set as well.  None of these that
> I've mentioned are cheap, to say the least.
> 
> 



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