hi Chuck , >So, for multiple switches in any environment, let alone the CCIE >Lab, what >are the expert level things one should know? for example, trunking? >VTP? >etherchannel? fallback bridging? vlan failover? various spanning >tree functions? vlan tunnels? etc?
My point is there is not so many task like connecting 2 switch without using the same discribe as in the lab like trunking 2 c3550 there are only 2 encap dot and isl , no matter what we use it will be the same in the real lab or other lab any way. or like RIP there are only ver1 and 2 so it hard to get around it without use the same term as cisco did . But i dont want to write a lab that will be to closed the the real labl ,just a lab that make people understand the subject not to BRAINDUMP them . Yes i knew that ASET used the old ccie lab format , but i have seen some ccie prep books written by former proctor , is it ok for them to break NDA and we are tight up from head to toe the minute we signed the lab NDA ? But i will email to cisco to find out , and thanks again for your response. The Long and Winding Road wrote: > > forgive the format. my Outlook Express client is severely > misbehaving, > crashing randomly when I try to do in-line posting. > > >i have a question about NDA that i am not sure about ,hope > > someone can answer me > > Cisco is the ultimate arbiter. you can contact them directly at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have found that they will respond if you are > specific. > > be aware that I have asked about potential NDA violation of > specific > training materials and received conflicting answers. > > >if i write about Cat3550 ,routing protocol stuff (NOT same > > question,diagram ,score ,time ... like in the real lab ) will > i BREAK any > > NDA > > While having been through the Lab demands that you be a little > more careful, > the fact is that the equipment in the Lab and the equipment in > the real > world all works the same way and has similar capability. There > is only so > much that can be said. > > If you were to say "here is what I saw in the CCIE Lab when I > was there" and > provided information, that would be NDA. On the other hand, if > you were to > start by identifying core topics, core skill sets, and go from > there, you > are probably OK. > > Is Caslow a violation of NDA? NLI? IPXpert? Etc? > > Or maybe to put it another way, is it any real secret as to > what the core > topics are? > > >the lab had 2 CAT3550 and every one knew about it > > ,but if i write about a question like create vlan xx and > connecting 2 cats > > together , will it fall under NDA violation if i write "NEXT > TASK IS TO > USE > > CONSOLE PORT TO CONNECT the switch , allow only VLAN xx to > pass,and create > > some thing to put port in :-) " > > better way to put this might be to consider skill sets > necessary to proclaim > "expertise" and write around emphasizing those skill sets. > > So, for multiple switches in any environment, let alone the > CCIE Lab, what > are the expert level things one should know? for example, > trunking? VTP? > etherchannel? fallback bridging? vlan failover? various > spanning tree > functions? vlan tunnels? etc? > > >Like Mr Karl Solie books ,he also a ccie and his books got > lots of stuff > > very close to the real lab according to amanzon feedback, how > come cisco > > didnt NDA him yet ,or ciscopress can publish those NDA stuff > any time they > > want ?,is it a time limit for NDA after the lab ? > > I got a better one for you. Cisco publishes the ASET labs for > Cisco > employees and partners to use for CCIE preparation. Forget > NDA. Is this > fair? that working for a partner I can see practice materials > written by > Cisco that someone else who does not have that advantage > cannot? that I can > attend Cisco sponsored training that others may not? > > >Or is it freely to write any thing but the question must not > look like the > > lab but still contains same routing,switching protocol like > in the lab . > > > > I think you're OK if you stay clear of any implication that you > are > revealing what you saw in the Lab. When I wrote my white paper, > available on > Cert Zone, I had not yet seen the new Lab. Now that I've been > through the > new Lab, I make very sure that I do not make statements about > whether or not > the paper is close to what I saw in the lab. What I do say is > that the > topics covered are part of an expert skill set that I believe > are required, > especially now that I am doing a lot more big campus switching > projects for > customers. as such, the knowledge cannot hurt when one prepares > for the Lab. > > > note - the message below was cut in order for me to respond > without my news > client crashing. > > ""Nicky Lane Nicky Lane"" wrote in > message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > hi everyone ,i have a question about NDA that i am not sure > about ,hope > > someone can answer me . > > snip > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=64197&t=64179 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
