Sam- You're in for some fun.

If you try to move the patch panel, the only defining factor is the
length of the cables going to the panel.  You obviously can only move in
the direction in which the cables are coming from.  If you have some of
the cables coming from the bottom of the rack and the rest coming from
the top, you're going to have to pull the bottom cables or the top
cables, moved the panel, and then re-punch the cables that were pulled.
While moving the panel, any cables still attached should be zip-strapped
very securely to the panel all the way to the outside edge i.e.,
immobilizing the cables.  If you don't, you might as well remove and
re-punch them all.  Think of the issue as like that of the Telco
engineer in the CO or Panel box down in the hole... if is isn't
extremely careful (which they usually aren't), he's going to break a few
line pairs' connections ever so slightly while working on another pair
(which of course then causes your phone line or T1 to be down until the
returns to fix what he broke without realizing it).  Same premise for
the Ethernet cables.

Your best bet is to simply pull them all, and re-punch them.  It's time
consuming, but it does the job right the first time.  This still means
you need to move the panel in the direction of the cable (unless you
have a serious amount of excess cable for all of the cable runs coiled
up in the ceiling or the raised floor.

As far as how long it takes to punch them down- 10 to 30 seconds.
Labeling them as you pull them off the patch panel depends on if you are
using a P-touch labeler or hand-writing on some kind of tape.

As always, Your mileage may vary.

-Mark 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PATCH PANEL stuff [7:64503]

Hey Guys,
In my wiring closet, I have about 3 racks and about 10 patch panels(The
Racks got capacity for at least 30 PP's)

I need to move a patch panel out and to the rack next to the one it
currently is on. What is the best way to do this? Do i have to follow
this
kind of procedure:

-remove all the cables connected to the back of this patch panel and
then
label the cables
-move the patch panel to the other rack
-looking at the labels, again punch-down these cables to their
appropriate
locations.

Would this be the normal way of doing it? Or can I simply unscrew the
patch
panel from the rack and then somehow move it with the cables still
connected
to the other rack. This way, the cables won't be sorted as good as they
would be normally but it should be ok i think..

My other question is how long does it take on an average to punch down a
single cable(4pairs) onto the back of the patch panel? I've never done
it,
though I think after I buy the tools, I would be able to figure it out.
Please give me an approximation. For eg. Making a straight-cable takes
about
4-6 minutes

Thx
Sam




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