""Peter van Oene"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > At 07:31 PM 3/18/2003 +0000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > >Maccubbin, Duncan wrote: > > > > > > How is the industry supposed to keep up with this?? > > > >What's the issue? Not sure I'm seeing your point. What's wrong with Cisco > >announcing that their product received some sort of certificaton? > > Exactly.. I think the poster mistook the possibly ambiguous announcement as > yet another CCXX cert. > > >Now, if you were concerned that Cisco has too many ways for people to get > >certified and that the situation is getting out of hand, I might agree. > > I really am surprised at how many folks pour their heart/money into getting > one after another. I'm also amazed at how many folks will try and devote > a good portion of interview time to showing me their various certificates. > After the first couple I pretty much grasp that you have enough short term > memory to get through a multiple choice exam and we should really get back > to talking about technologies. > > Cisco makes big bucks on these certifications. The recert requirements > create a beautiful residual revenue stream making this business unit very > attractive internally to Cisco. Since they doubled the cost of the CCIE > recert, purely for profit, I have decided to let my certification lapse vs > give in to this obvious cash grab. Kudos to Cisco for making their VAR > channels one of their more lucrative revenue sources.
The cycle historically runs such that as the demand ( people seeking certification ) peaks the value of the cert has already begun its decline. Coincidentally, there is a move to a new technology that blows away the old one. Witness Novell. ( OK so there aren't a lot of examples here ) But I really do have to wonder if technology is changing such that certs of any kind are less relevant. A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, Isaac Azimov wrote a short story about a society in which everyone certified in some technology or other, and when that technology changed, people could not find work. ( IIRC there were other aspects to the story as well, but that's an aside ) So, Peter, Howard, Priscilla, Dave, and anyone else - what's sneaking down the pipe? Or are things becoming such that no human intervention is required? > > >Priscilla > > > > > > > > > > "Cisco also announced today highly prestigious certification > > > support across > > > the entire PIX Family of security appliances. Certifications > > > earned include > > > the Common Criteria Evaluation Assurance Level 4 (EAL4) > > > certification, and > > > both ICSA Labs firewall and IPSec certifications. These > > > certifications > > > provide customers with independent and objective validation > > > that a company's > > > product meets certain levels of quality and reliability, and > > > are among the > > > industry's most respected and stringent criteria for > > > certification. > > > Providing customers broad certification support across the > > > Cisco PIX family > > > within a common operating system increases operational > > > efficiencies and > > > lowers support and management costs." > > > > > > > > > Duncan Maccubbin > > > US Network Support, Cable and Wireless > > > CCNA, CCNP, CSS1, MCSE4 > > > Work (703)287-6975 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65703&t=65676 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]