Larry, In reference to your request about lagging author participation, I couldn't figure out where to e-mail you and your Citizendium talk page is full and bogging down, so I'm responding here. You can screen this out if you want, but it might be beneficial for the whole group list.
I'm registered as an author and wrote one article: Knowledge Creation. That said, I haven't put any more time in this because I don't think Citizendium has figured out how to manage expertise in light of knowledge creation. An expert is one that holds knowledge. But if that which the expert holds is not logical, it is not really knowledge at all, but a mix of questions and logic. The test of knowledge is logic, not expertise. In other words, one can be seen as, esteemed as, an expert and not hold logical knowledge, or hold a mix of things logical and illogical. Expertise is sheerly political without a logic test. As long as logic is not the test, then anyone can come in to the things I author at any time and replace them with illogical content that is more readily accepted by society because of the prevelant view of the 'expert' mob, who may 'all' be in error if you look at it through the lens of logic. To give you an example, if you put all the experts on a topic in a physical room, and ask them to pen everything they know on a topic on a single sheet of paper, then you will either have to come up with a logic test for who/what is logical and who/what is not, or come to some kind of political compromise based on status, or influence, or even pushiness, etc. This is essentially what is happening in Citizendium as I see it. I've got my own ideas on how this logic test would work, but first folks have to see a need for it. I tried to approach this topic of expertise in the forum, but didn't get traction => http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,179.0.html Until I see Citizendium get over this hump, I think it's kind of futile to continue authoring and I'm just waiting for the expert hammer to drop on the one article I did write. Wikipedia replaced my knowledge creation article (and several others) with something status quo that is basically senseless and illogical. See my comment to this Wikipedia Knowledge Creation article on that talk page (This includes a link to a blog post with deeper comments/explanation): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Knowledge_creation Also, please read my Citizendium post on Knowledge Creation to learn more. Knowledge Creation is the main thing wiki folks everywhere aren't understanding. Until they face it, there going to continue to struggle with this concept of expertise and with cooperative knowledge working. When they 'get it,' I beleive we'll move into a new social order. So I do expect to have the same kind of deletion/comment at Citizendium that happened at Wikipedia once the experts get fully in place. I have a great deal of respect for the wiki concept in general, because knowledge is one and must be worked as one. I'm just waiting for folks to come to the realization that they need to understand knowledge creation to work knowledge as one. I've been waiting 20 years already, so I can wait a few more. I don't argue the point anymore, just waiting for folks to get there, so for now I've stopped authoring/participating and I am only monitoring progress of the effort. Kind Regards, Bruce LaDuke Managing Director Instant Innovation, LLC Indianapolis, IN [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hyperadvance.com _________________________________________________________________ Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live Messenger! Get it now http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview _______________________________________________ Citizendium-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.purdue.edu/mailman/listinfo/citizendium-l
