From: Reinhard Handl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> indeed, i needed this packages and also the latex-ucs packages.
>
> in the synaptic package manager i firstly found cjk-latex.
> so i thought i got everything - BUT after various tries i read the
> description which tells you:
>
> "installs all LaTeX CJK packages
> This is a dummy package that allows you to smoothly upgrade
> from the old cjk-latex to the current latex-cjk-common packages.
> After the installation of the latex-cjk-common packages, you can
> safely delete this package."
>
> so this is a joke - or what?
Beg your pardon? This is not a joke. A dummy package works like
this: it is an empty package, but depends on other and newer
packages. Once these newer packages are installed, you can remove the
empty dummy package. This system is widely used, and makes sure you
can upgrade to newly named packages without much problems.
> secondly i found latex-cjk-all which tells you:
>
> "installs all LaTeX CJK packages
> This package will install all CJK packages.
> You may also wish to install each package separately instead.
> See the latex-cjk-common package for a detailed description."
That's right. This is a virtual package. Again, it itself installs
nothing but depends on other packages. Users cannot be expected to
know everything, that's why the package manager must take care of
this. This package depends on *all* packages that have something to
do with CJK. If you don't want extra flexibility and you just want
everything to work, install this package, and the rest will be taken
care by apt-get, aptitude or synaptic.
> and even funnier the latex-cjk-common package tells you:
>
> "LaTeX macro package for CJK (Chinese/Japanese/Korean)
> CJK is a macro package for LaTeX to enable typesetting in Chinese,
> Japanese, Korean and Thai, and it supports Vietnamese through the
> "vntex" macro. And you can still use Russian, Greek and other
> languages in the same document.
> It supports various CJK encodings, like UTF-8, Big5, GB, JIS, KS,
> CNS (through CEF) and Emacs MULE.
>
> This package will install the common files, as well as a few
> GNU/Emacs Lisp files, and it provides support for furigana
> ("ruby text") and PinYin, either with or without tone marks."
>
> so, nothing of this is true.
I have to correct you here, laddy. The -common package installs all
the basic files. It won't install any font; it is just the bare
package. If you want Chinese but not Thai support, just install
-chinese. Flexibility is a good thing.
The latex-cjk packages don't DEPEND on font packages, but only SUGGEST
them. Why, will you ask? There are people who have installed their
own version of the Chinese Arphic font, for example. Why force these
users to use my font packages, if they have installed their own?
A few Chinese users complained about latex-cjk depending on these huge
font packages, so I changed it from DEPEND to SUGGEST.
> i had to install the formentioned packages as well.
Indeed, read the package descriptions. That's one thing I can expect
from users, right?
> so all does not mean all, sometimes it means nothing.
Wrong. -all will install all the subpackages
(latex-cjk-{common,chinese,thai,japanese,korean} and the font packages
-arphic-* and -japanese-wadalab). These are ALL packages that I
created for CJK. This is standard for almost all Debian packages.
Doing otherwise will only confuse the other 99.9% of the users.
> after everything is working for me, i had a big laugh,
> but maybe the ones maintaining the ubuntu packages
> can use my information to make it easier for the next
> poor boy like me. it took me two days and i learned a lot.
I am the packager for Debian, and Ubuntu just copied it to their
system. So in essence the Ubuntu packages are mine.
Unfortunately, I don't have time to check out any Ubuntu bugs for this
package; I hope the Ubuntu people will send bugs and possibly patches
to the Debian system from which it is derived.
If you have any suggestion about the package descriptions, tell me and
I might change them. I don't know how Ubuntu updates work, but when
it's changed in Debian, at some time in the future it will incorporate
my changes.
Danai SAE-HAN
韓達耐
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