On Nov 7, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Jim Redman wrote:
Steve,
Steve Holdoway wrote:
> You really do need to get out of the mindset that you don't
actually >need to know what you're doing to administer a server. It
is *NOT* a >trivial task, requires skills to support it, and years
of experience to >do it well.
Your opinions, seem to be the prevalent attitude of the vocal
members of this list - if you don't suffer, it wasn't worth it.
Is it really suffering if the steps are documented and you can follow
them?
Suffering to me would be if the steps are outlined somewhere and in
the course of following those directions, you get errors and
failures. Or the routine isn't documented anywhere so you have to
dig and hunt and infer how to configure something.
If you're a sysadmin and following directions is defined as
suffering, I think you may have other problems to deal with...
I would argue that I'm know enough about server administration to
realize that my knowledge of ClamAV will never be as deep as others
on this list, how much better if they create a secure, stable,
successful, packaged configuration and everyone (which happens to
also include me!) benefits from their knowledge. Or does that
sound like flamebait?
Because what fits your needs may not fit other people's needs when
you stop to consider how draconian or how absolutely loose-and-free
different mail admins can be? There are still idiots running open
relays out there. Encouraging people to know what the hell they're
doing helps separate those idiots from the rest of the populace.
Maybe what would actually be helpful is an automated uninstall/
reinstall that asks what options you want set to what values, and
compares changes from the previous install. Makes it more tedious
though.
-Bart
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