On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:07 AM, jef moskot wrote:

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
What you're talking about is hassle...if it's too much hassle, you move on to something else. That's fine and dandy. But there are many many
many people who are using, for example, ClamAV without throwing a fit
because there's too much in the conf file to set up.

He didn't throw a fit, he suggested that if a package exists, it ought to
work.  I don't think that's unreasonable.

It does work. It installs, you then set up the conf file for your specific setup.

Unless you have a way of packaging it so that you download
CLAMAV for POSTFIX filtered through AMAVISD-NEW using SPAMASSASSIN with options (XYZ) preset.rpm

And rewrite all the configs for those files in turn so it doesn't upset your site-specific info...

THAT was what he was asking for.

Calling him lazy is obscuring and sidestepping the actual problem. It's also pointless, since if you've read the subject line, you already know
that he's lazy.  He's admitted it, hooray, you win.

YAY! Let's have devs go out of their way to help someone too lazy to do the most basic steps. If he's that lazy and ignorant, what makes you think he'd even work with packagers to assist in customizing a package for him?

If some packages install without difficulty and others do not, then how about we work together to bring the less efficient packages in line with
the more effective ones?

Now see, that's a reasonably worded request, but see, he didn't do that. He said he's ignorant, this stuff takes (/whine) too much effort to configure(/whine), and wants someone to do it for him as a package.

It's called outsourcing.
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