I agree. We are going to look at moving away from Clean Access because of no third party OOB support. But until now we couldn't justify the cost (and the fact that the software could easily be loaded on new hardware in case of failure), now with forcing us to buy appliances the third party vendors price tag just became $20,000-$30,000 cheaper. An extra $20,000 and we will be able to facilitate a years worth of maint, more licenses than we had with CCA, OOB, and integration with our packetshaper as well as our firewall and IPS. Not to mention we can't get Cisco to add SMP support for servers and non-super cam. I have a quad processor cam and dual processor servers with cpus idle meanwhile other cpus are sometimes hitting max load under file transfers and they are 3+Ghz CPUs. I am beginning to confuse the Cisco name with Apple. Both have good ideas.......But execution is poor. Bradford here I come, good bye Cisco.
Sincerely, Sidney Eaton, CCNA, Network+, NCSS, NCDE, CCSE Network Technician Ferris State University 205 West Building Big Rapids, Mi 49307 (231) 591-5388 For Support Call (231) 591-4822 or www.ferris.edu/tac "Stanclift, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators <[email protected]> 07/07/2008 04:21 PM Please respond to Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators <[email protected]> To [email protected] cc Subject Re: Need to upgrade Server hardware.... Jeremy, You can’t tell me that Cisco is introducing features so advanced that the boxes we have now would not be capable of running it. The boxes we run are nearly identical to probably 50% of the people not running Cisco branded equipment, on this list. There have been other issues in the last year related to the NAC that have caused me to start evaluating other options, this is just icing on the cake. One big reason we didn’t switch this year was that we didn’t want to fuss with new equipment… I can only see Cisco losing customers because of this. Michael Stanclift Network Analyst Rockhurst University Conway Hall, Office 415 1100 Rockhurst Road Kansas City, Missouri 64110 (816) 501-4231 From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy McGuinn (jemcguin) Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Need to upgrade Server hardware.... Bruce and Michael, I understand your concerns about your internal end-of-life plans vs Cisco introducing the appliance, but lets be reasonable. All applications have changing hardware requirements depending on the version you are using. Changing to a Cisco appliance may have many advantages over third party hardware especially when it comes to Cisco’s control over developing the upgrade process, and in the long run it could be less expensive because of the fact that the appliance is Cisco hardware and will have a longer end-of-life. I am just knuckle dragging engineer so please contact your account team reps for a full cost justification of migrating to an appliance. Then you can judge if it makes sense, and you will have a short/long term cost justification for management. Regards, Jeremy From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W. (NS) Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Need to upgrade Server hardware.... Todd, So, does this mean that those of us that are using our own hardware will either need to re-purchase them with appliances or move to a different NAC solution? That’s a great upgrade plan! Bruce Osborne Liberty University From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joyce, Todd N Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLEANACCESS] Need to upgrade Server hardware.... From Cisco Live (Networkers) here is what I learned - All 4.5 and higher will require the new Cisco hardware 4.5 Due in late Fall (Oct/Nov) 4.6 Due in Spring (March/April) Todd Joyce Network Services Radford University – The Smart Choice [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 831-7777 Keep your boots and ChapStick and ice hotels. Give me shorts and sandals and a thirty-blocker. Temperance Brennan – Monday Mourning From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators on behalf of Mike Linval Sent: Mon 7/7/2008 11:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Need to upgrade Server hardware.... So we run CCA software on our own hardware, have since before Cisco purchased it. We are going to replace our hardware and so I went to the Cisco website to check on supported hardware. Is the supported hardware info up to date? We use Dell and they dont even offer some of the supported hardware specified in the document. Also, does CCA support quad-core processors? Thanks for the help
