Aaron,

Our setup under Clean Access >> General Setup >> Agent Login requires the agent for MAC_OSX, but not for MAC_ALL. Then under Clean Access >> General Setup >> Web Login is where we determine that the MAC_ALL will add their address to the filters list.

For our Mac OS X clients, we require that the have McAfee Security for Mac installed and not any previous version of McAfee anti-virus software (we previously supplied VirusScan and Virex, but both have been replaced with Security for Mac).

Also, for our configuration I require that the "Network Scanner User Agreement page" is shown for these web login devices so I can provide a display of information after they are authenticated.

Dan

Dan Taube
Call Center Supervisor :: Associate IT Support
University Computer Help Desk :: Illinois State University
309-438-8985 [direct] :: 309-438-4357 [support]
[email protected]


On 8/10/2010 12:02 PM, Aaron Abitia wrote:
Bill and Dan,

This means that you're exempting all Macintosh devices, not just your iPhones and iPads and such, correct? If so, you're cool with that? Just wondering what the pros/cons of that would be.

-Aaron



On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Bill Eben <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    We're running inband 4.8. To help with iPhones/iPod touches, we
    exempt them (i.e. MAC_ALL) from web logins by having them
    automatically added to the MAC filter list. Because we clear
    certified devices every 7 days, iPhone users only need to log in
    once (per CCA server) per week.

    The exempt checkbox is under Device Management -> Clean Access ->
    General Setup -> Web Login

    Bill
    --
    Bill Eben
    Coordinator, Residential Computing
    Kutztown University
    610.683.4974
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>


    On Aug 9, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Jeremy Wood wrote:

        We had some of these same issues with our wireless IB clients.
        Disabling the heartbeat timer solved the problem for us. Although
        depending on how your using NAC you might need this (but I
        honestly
        don't know which situations the heartbeat timer solves that aren't
        solved by another feature)

        --Jeremy

        On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 19:32, Aaron Abitia
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            We are running inband 4.6.1 but have seen similar things
            and we have a case
            open with Cisco.  It's related to the powersave modes of
            these small devices
            and/or the various nuances of how these PDA devices
            operate and manage
            connections...the devices disable the wireless card to
            save power if idle,
            for example, so when they do that, CCA sees that as a log
            off, and when they
            wake up, it makes them log in again.  Cisco said it's
            really a client side
            issue, that is, the user shouldn't let the device go idle
            and disable the
            wifi in the process, so it's also a user behavior issue
            too.  We are still
            pushing to see what else Cisco knows.

            We are looking at the various timers, and in particular
            under "User
            Management" --> "User Roles" --> "Schedule" --> "Heartbeat
            Timer".
            According to Cisco, there's 3 timers to work with:
             Session Timer, Heartbeat
            Timer, Certified Device Timer.  In particular, configuring
            the Heartbeat
            Timer will boot the PDA user's connection for good at the
            30 min mark if
            you've got that set for 30 min, or whatever time you
            choose, but we're not
            sure if that means that if the user goes idle and CCA
            doesn't see them as
            logging off (for whatever reason), then it actually
            preserves that session,
            which is what we'd want, thus keeping the users from
            having to log in over
            and over in a day because their device goes idle while
            they are doing
            something else.

            When it comes to session issues like this, you also have
            to consider what
            you have available in your DHCP pool...if want want to
            allow sessions to
            stay open, that could impact the number of DHCP leases you
            have available
            for other users.

            Don't know if this helps at all, but good luck.

            -Aaron


            On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Branden Kirk
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:


                We just started using NAC 4.8 Out-of-band Virtual
                Gateway and applied NAC
                to our encrypted
                SSID running on WCS/WLC 6.0 with 1142/1131 LWAPs.
                 This is our first use
                off NAC 4.1 and also
                deploying OOB.  We seem to have a problem, especially
                on mobile devices
                like the iPhone, where
                each session is requiring the device to re-auth
                regardless of being on the
                CDL.  Creating a device
                filter as a workaround works.  I'm having trouble
                finding the root issue
                as it seems not all users of
                the same device type have the issue.  For instance, I
                have an iPhone 4
                user who gets locked in a
                safari page titled "Log In" showing the apple.com
                <http://apple.com> site, but none of that
                behavior on another iPhone
                4.  Re-auth and page re-direction seems to happen more
                for some iPhone 3GS
                users than others.
                I've seen my macbook re-auth me after waking from
                sleep last week, but
                today none of the
                behavior exists.  We have had the OOB port profile
                option "Change to
                Access VLAN if the device is
                certified but not in the out-of-band user list" set
                this whole time but
                have still had this issue on
                wireless.  None of the disconnect options for port
                profile are enabled.

                Any ideas?  Anyone encounter an issue similar to this
                experience or know
                what the root
                cause/solution could be?  I'm making a TAC case, but
                thought I'd hit this
                list as well.

                Thanks in advance.

                --
                Branden Kirk
                Network Administrator, IT Operations
                Biola University
                (562)944-0351 x5032




            --
            Aaron Abitia
            Network Analyst
            Network Administration, ITS
            Cal Poly State University
            Tel: 805.756.1295




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Aaron Abitia
Network Analyst
Network Administration, ITS
Cal Poly State University
Tel: 805.756.1295

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