Bill and Dan,
This means that you're exempting all Macintosh devices, not just
your iPhones and iPads and such, correct? If so, you're cool with
that? Just wondering what the pros/cons of that would be.
-Aaron
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Bill Eben <[email protected]> wrote:
We're running inband 4.8. To help with iPhones/iPod touches, we
exempt them (i.e. MAC_ALL) from web logins by having them
automatically added to the MAC filter list. Because we clear
certified devices every 7 days, iPhone users only need to log in
once (per CCA server) per week.
The exempt checkbox is under Device Management -> Clean Access ->
General Setup -> Web Login
Bill
--
Bill Eben
Coordinator, Residential Computing
Kutztown University
610.683.4974
[email protected]
On Aug 9, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Jeremy Wood wrote:
We had some of these same issues with our wireless IB clients.
Disabling the heartbeat timer solved the problem for us. Although
depending on how your using NAC you might need this (but I honestly
don't know which situations the heartbeat timer solves that aren't
solved by another feature)
--Jeremy
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 19:32, Aaron Abitia <[email protected]>
wrote:
We are running inband 4.6.1 but have seen similar things and we
have a case
open with Cisco. It's related to the powersave modes of these
small devices
and/or the various nuances of how these PDA devices operate and
manage
connections...the devices disable the wireless card to save power
if idle,
for example, so when they do that, CCA sees that as a log off, and
when they
wake up, it makes them log in again. Cisco said it's really a
client side
issue, that is, the user shouldn't let the device go idle and
disable the
wifi in the process, so it's also a user behavior issue too. We
are still
pushing to see what else Cisco knows.
We are looking at the various timers, and in particular under "User
Management" --> "User Roles" --> "Schedule" --> "Heartbeat Timer".
According to Cisco, there's 3 timers to work with: Session Timer,
Heartbeat
Timer, Certified Device Timer. In particular, configuring the
Heartbeat
Timer will boot the PDA user's connection for good at the 30 min
mark if
you've got that set for 30 min, or whatever time you choose, but
we're not
sure if that means that if the user goes idle and CCA doesn't see
them as
logging off (for whatever reason), then it actually preserves that
session,
which is what we'd want, thus keeping the users from having to log
in over
and over in a day because their device goes idle while they are doing
something else.
When it comes to session issues like this, you also have to
consider what
you have available in your DHCP pool...if want want to allow
sessions to
stay open, that could impact the number of DHCP leases you have
available
for other users.
Don't know if this helps at all, but good luck.
-Aaron
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Branden Kirk <[email protected]
>
wrote:
We just started using NAC 4.8 Out-of-band Virtual Gateway and
applied NAC
to our encrypted
SSID running on WCS/WLC 6.0 with 1142/1131 LWAPs. This is our
first use
off NAC 4.1 and also
deploying OOB. We seem to have a problem, especially on mobile
devices
like the iPhone, where
each session is requiring the device to re-auth regardless of being
on the
CDL. Creating a device
filter as a workaround works. I'm having trouble finding the root
issue
as it seems not all users of
the same device type have the issue. For instance, I have an
iPhone 4
user who gets locked in a
safari page titled "Log In" showing the apple.com site, but none of
that
behavior on another iPhone
4. Re-auth and page re-direction seems to happen more for some
iPhone 3GS
users than others.
I've seen my macbook re-auth me after waking from sleep last week,
but
today none of the
behavior exists. We have had the OOB port profile option "Change to
Access VLAN if the device is
certified but not in the out-of-band user list" set this whole time
but
have still had this issue on
wireless. None of the disconnect options for port profile are
enabled.
Any ideas? Anyone encounter an issue similar to this experience or
know
what the root
cause/solution could be? I'm making a TAC case, but thought I'd
hit this
list as well.
Thanks in advance.
--
Branden Kirk
Network Administrator, IT Operations
Biola University
(562)944-0351 x5032
--
Aaron Abitia
Network Analyst
Network Administration, ITS
Cal Poly State University
Tel: 805.756.1295
--
Aaron Abitia
Network Analyst
Network Administration, ITS
Cal Poly State University
Tel: 805.756.1295