Hi Tsuy

I'm happy to support you if you encounter problems with the current process,
this might also help improving the process.

Also with the current process it is possible to include static files, also
things get simpler thanks to CLEREZZA-INF/web-resources which causes static
files provided by bundles to be included in the offline site.

If you have architectural document you failed you publish I can add them for
you. I could also try doing an instructional video out of the process of
adding it :)

Just for the current discussion of changing the publishing process, I think
never reported problems (as well as the typo first reported in Marco's
recent mail) are very weak arguments.

Reto



On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Tsuyoshi Ito <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I had 2 problems in the past to update the current apache clerezza site:
> 1. only reto had write permission => this is fixed (INFRA-3477)
> 2. the process to update the website was too complicated for me ( I
> tried to add an archticture documentation: CLEREZZA-334)
>
> IMO having a  website with useful information for [potential] users
> should be the focus right now. Furthermore it should be easy to update
> for ever committer (also users who are not committers but want to
> contribute to the content of the website should be able to deliver a
> patch.
>
> But I think we should discuss solutions for the future, which should
> be clerezza based (as suggested by Henry or  it is also possible to
> use trialox cms components)
>
> I have had a quick look into Apache CMS and think this is a way to go.
> Or storing the website content directly in the svn repository is also
> solution in the short term for me.
>
> Cheers
> Tsuy
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Henry Story <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 17 Mar 2011, at 11:49, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> If in another half a year we see that even after having repeatedly
> updated
> >> the site it still takes unbearable extra-time to perform an update then
> we
> >> should reconsider changing the process. Apache CMS might be an
> alternative,
> >> static html files hardly are.
> >
> > This is a bit above my knowledge here, but I'd suggest that static pages
> are excellent
> > for documentation, and that is what is perhaps most needed for new
> developers to
> > come along. The backend logic for that is so simple, it could easily be
> done
> > in a wiki even. Once done it can always be slurped into Clerezza and
> republished
> > there it seems to me. It could even be a useful module to have: if Apache
> is used
> > to publishing sites a certain way, then a module that used input
> generated that way,
> > with a bit of rdfa markup perhaps, would make for an easy transition.
> >
> > The pages here
> >
> >  https://incubator.apache.org/clerezza/spike/
> >
> > look very good.
> >
> > We should at some point develop a module where html developers need to
> know nothing
> > at all about clerezza in order to generate templates that they can use.
> This is the
> > thinking that led to projects such as
> >
> >  - Enhydra XMLC [1] (2000->)
> >  - apache wicket [2]
> >  - lift scala library [3]
> >
> > What would be useful would be to tune the experience gained form those
> and see how the semantic web could add a further improvement to them.
> >
> > But in any case if html devs want to make beautiful pages, the experience
> of those frameworks is that what they produce has to be html.
> >
> >        Henry
> >
> >
> > [1] http://xmlc.ow2.org/doc/index.html
> > [2] http://wicket.apache.org/
> > [3] http://demo.liftweb.net/templating/
> > Henry
> >
> >
> > Social Web Architect
> > http://bblfish.net/
> >
> >
>

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