Hi all,

  Having the web site site https://incubator.apache.org/clerezza/ look good on 
first access
is really important, especially as I am telling everyone how interesting a 
project this is.

  So in my view it does not matter at all how this is done, as long as it looks 
good, the documentation is available there immediately, it is stable, and 
nobody can kill the server.

  Then the really interesting part is to see how the process can be guided by 
the pure html crowd. As far as possible those devs should have need to no tools 
other than an editor (vi is a must*) and a bunch of browsers. No JSPs, not 
complex language to learn. Perhaps server side includes are allowed. HTML and 
aesthetics are two fields that are complex enough to learn for anyone.

  How far can they go with the above, without this work getting tedious for 
them?
  
  For the documentation, my guess is that that's all that is needed. For more 
dynamic sites one would like to be able to get going from that somehow. But the 
burden should be on the code to fetch real working templates, cut them into 
pieces and display them dynamically.

  Then the interesting bit is how can the semweb make things simpler. Perhaps 
one can just describe a page as a bunch of templates, distributed around the 
web? One simple rdf file that points to a bunch of places, a server that 
fetches those and builds the views?

Currently the documentation is here I am finding out

  - http://localhost:8080/documentation/
  - https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/clerezza/site/trunk/readme.txt

I'll look at that in more detail as soon as I fixed some issues in the code I 
am working on. 

It should not matter in the end how documentation is written. The page for a 
component can have a seealso link to the mvn component for example. As long as 
the pieces are cleanly seperatable and nameable.

 Clerezza is not in my view mostly a CMS. It's much bigger than that: it's a 
key piece of the distributed social web. If it were just a CMS it would not be 
interesting: there are thousands of those already. The semantic web piece is 
interesting because it should allow us to get us all to collaborate a lot more 
easily.

   Just my 2 cents.

        Henry

* ;-) just trying to start an old religious war here. No Dreamweaver is what 
people at AltaVista used 10 years ago. I think they still do.

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