Anything buy IronClojure.

On Feb 16, 7:30 pm, Rich Hickey <richhic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2009, at 7:17 PM, dmiller wrote:
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> > On Feb 16, 5:33 pm, Chouser <chou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, dmiller <dmiller2...@gmail.com>  
> >> wrote:
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> >> I don't know if you've looked at ClojureScript at all, but it's a
> >> similar if noticeably less ambitious project to compile Clojure  
> >> code to
> >> JavaScript.  It's in clojure-contrib already, but in
> >> trunk/clojurescript instead of trunk/src.  My reasons for this were
> >> (1) I wasn't quite sure how to lay out the directory structure and
> >> didn't want to mess up anyone else, and (2) it doesn't work with
> >> Clojure trunk but instead requires a patch and rebuild of Clojure
> >> itself.  This patch is stored right there in contrib as well.
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> > I have looked briefly at ClojureScript.
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> > Placement: I'm guessing a parallel off-trunk placement.  This code is
> > completely independent of Clojure/JVM, except for the bootstrap *.clj
> > files.  I have those included in the project, so I'm not broken by
> > Clojure/JVM changes.
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> > Also, this code is not set up for casual play. You need to be in
> > Visual Studio, download the DLR, connect Tab A to Slot B, etc.  I'm
> > thinking it should not be in trunk/src by the criteria you cite.
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> >> This is the majority of what the ClojureScript patch changes --  
> >> moving
> >> explicit uses of non-Clojure Java class names out of .clj files and
> >> into clojure.lang.RT (or other appropriate Clojure classes) so that
> >> the .clj can be loaded as-is.  RT and Numbers have to be ported by
> >> hand anyway, so it's not significantly worse on that end.
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> >> I'd be very interested to compare notes and see if our needs have a
> >> common solution.
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> > I need to make the same kinds of changes to the *.clj files.  This has
> > not been automated yet, so being in synch is a matter of hand-
> > editing.
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> > We most definitely need to compare notes.
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> >> Sounds great!  But there's one very important question you didn't
> >> address.  What are you going to call it?  :-)
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> >> Seriously, though, since it seems likely that a majority of code
> >> written to run on your port will not work on Clojure/JVM, because of
> >> the runtime libs available (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's
> >> important for a body of code to be able to clearly declare where it's
> >> supposed to work.  A name that is used consistently can help, I would
> >> think.
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> > This is 100% C#/.NET.
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> > I'm up for suggestions on the name.  The obvious ones:
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> > - Clojure.net
> > - ClojureCLR
> > - IronClojure (paralleling IronPython/IronRuby, unless MS has Iron
> > trademarked.)
> > - CLjR  (too cute)
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> > Perhaps Rich will have a preference.  He'll have to live with it
> > longer than anyone and has branding/confusion issues to keep in mind.
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> I prefer ClojureCLR.
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> Rich
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