I have not done something like this before but your Clojure changed my life , so I owe you something. However, coming from a far away continent(with low income per head) I may not be able to match 100/developer/year price. I hope you won't mind my widow's might when it comes.
Emeka On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:19 PM, BerlinBrown <berlin.br...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 14, 9:33 am, Rich Hickey <richhic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Funding Clojure 2010 > > > > Background > > ---------- > > > > It is important when using open source software that you consider who > > is paying for it, because someone is. There is no such thing as free > > software. > > > > Sometimes open source software is developed under a license with > > undesirable properties (e.g. the GPL), such that people are willing to > > pay for a (proprietary) version of it that is not subject to that > > license. Both Monty Widenius [1] and Richard Stallman [2] have argued > > for the necessity of such a mechanism to fund open source software, > > lest there be insufficient resources for its development. Clojure > > doesn't use the GPL, thus conveying more freedom to its users, but > > precluding me from funding it via dual licensing. > > > > Some companies develop technology as a component of a proprietary > > product or service, absorbing it as a necessary expense, only to > > decide that it is not a core, unique, or advantage-bearing business > > function. They can reduce their costs in ongoing development by open > > sourcing it, deriving benefit from community contributions and letting > > them focus on their core business [3]. It is important to note that > > the bulk of the costs are often in the original development, and are > > paid for by the proprietary product or service. That is not the case > > for Clojure. > > > > Some open source is the product of academic research, and is funded by > > the academic institution and/or research grants [4]. That is not the > > case for Clojure. > > > > Some open source software is (partially) funded by proprietary > > support. It is important to note that often the support income does > > not in fact make it to the people who create the software. Such income > > models work best for support sold to conservative enterprises [5]. > > That is not the case for Clojure. > > > > Some companies 'fund' open source software by dedicating some of their > > employees' time, or making investments, in its development. There must > > be some business value to the company for doing so (e.g. it helps them > > sell hardware [6]), and thus is ultimately paid for by their > > proprietary products/services. That is not the case for Clojure. > > > > There *are* companies that make software themselves, whose consumers > > see a value in it and willingly pay to obtain that value. The money > > produced by this process pays the salaries of the people who are > > dedicated to making it, and some profit besides. It's called > > "proprietary software". People pay for proprietary software because > > they have to, but otherwise the scenario is very similar to open > > source - people make software, consumers get value from it. In fact, > > we often get a lot less with proprietary software - vendor lock-in, no > > source etc. Most alarmingly, this is the only model that associates > > value with software itself, and therefore with the people who make it. > > > > Why don't people pay for open source software? Primarily, because they > > don't *have to*. I think also, partially, it is because open source > > software often doesn't have a price tag. I think it should. I'd like > > to pay for open source, and know the money is going to those who > > create it. I'd like companies to *expect* to pay for it. I'd like to > > see people make a living (and even profit!) directly making open > > source, not as a side effect of some other proprietary process, to > > dedicate themselves to it, and not have it be hobby/side work. > > > > Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to convey the full benefits of > > open source software while *forcing* people to pay for it. Only in the > > proprietary (including dual-license) model is there a direct > > connection between the consumers of software and the funding of those > > that produce it. This is having the effect of driving open source > > software towards having zero apparent cost, becoming a free bounty of > > someone else's other profitable endeavors, and is severely > > compromising our profession. > > > > Foreground > > ---------- > > > > As should be obvious, Clojure is a labor of love on my part. Started > > as a self-funded sabbatical project, Clojure has come to occupy me far > > more than full-time. However, Clojure does not have institutional or > > corporate sponsorship, and was not, and is not, the by-product of > > another profitable endeavor. I have borne the costs of developing > > Clojure myself, but 2009 is the last year I, or my family, can bear > > that. > > > > Many generous people have made donations (thanks all!), but many more > > have not, and, unfortunately, donations are not adding up to enough > > money to pay the bills. So far, less than 1% of the time I've spent on > > Clojure has been compensated. > > > > Right now, it is economically irrational for me to work on Clojure, > > yet, I want to continue working on Clojure, and people are clearly > > deriving benefit from my work. How can we rectify this? Barring the > > arrival of some white knight, I'm asking the users of Clojure to fund > > its core development (i.e. my effort) directly, and without being > > forced to do so. > > > > Here's how I think that could work: > > > > Individual users > > > > If you are an individual user of Clojure, I encourage you to > > contribute $100/year to Clojure development, via the donation system. > > I hope that, in time, the Clojure community will become large enough > > that $100/developer/year will be enough to gainfully employ myself, > > and eventually others, in its development. If you are just evaluating, > > a student, unemployed etc, I don't expect you to pay. If you live in a > > country with a different income structure, please contribute a > > commensurate amount. > > > > Businesses > > > > If you are using Clojure in a business endeavor, I appreciate and > > applaud your savvy, and wish you much success and profit. At this > > stage in its community growth, $100/developer/year is not going to be > > enough to sustain Clojure development. I think Clojure needs several > > of you to recognize your mutual self interest in a continuing strong > > core development effort, and the collective value in pooling resources > > to fund Clojure. Each business can fund some weeks or months of my > > Clojure development time. In this way, no single company need sponsor > > Clojure, nor bear all of the costs. This funding should *not* occur > > via the donation system. Given a CA from your company, I can invoice > > you, at a fraction of my normal rate, for consulting hours for work on > > Clojure, corresponding to your contribution amount. Please contact me > > directly via email to make arrangements. > > > > Note that I have every intent and desire to continue working on > > Clojure. It is some of the most satisfying work I have ever done, and > > you, the Clojure community, are some of the best people I have ever > > worked with. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rich > > > > [1] > http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/10/importance-of-license-model-of... > > [2]http://keionline.org/ec-mysql > > [3] > http://blog.linkedin.com/2009/03/20/project-voldemort-scaling-simple-... > > [4]http://www.scala-lang.org/node/146 > > [5]https://www.redhat.com/products/ > > [6]http://www.ibm.com/linux/systems.html > > This is a great post. However, I don't know if Clojure is the > software that companies/people will invest in that will garnish the > kind of support you need. For example, it seems like a lot of > software like MySQL, Apache Group, Python were in use for years, maybe > even decades before becoming a self sustaining entity. > > Have you ever considered working with a larger company like Oracle/ > Sun, IBM or Google in some kind of research capacity and working on > Clojure full time there? For example, I believe the JRuby developers > worked for Sun at one point while they developed JRuby. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
