> This strikes me as a potentially disastrous idea; look at how much
> mindshare going the proprietary route has cost Rebol, for instance.

I don't know anything about Rebol except for some quick
googling that I've just done on them.  But the impression
I get is that what they've done is substantially different
from the Plan B that I've proposed.

>From what I can tell, there is no guarantee that the current
Rebol code base will ever become open source.  The Plan B
proposal guarantees that after 1 year (or whatever time
period is chosen) the current code base will become open
source.

One of the big pluses of open source - in my view - is the
long term guarantees it provides for the code base.  If Rich
ever dropped Clojure development, open source means that
everyone would still be freely allowed to use, maintain and
further develop the code base.  Plan B still provides this.  As
a worst case it merely delays this.

I am not saying Plan B is the ideal choice.  The two main
issues with it, I think, are:

  * it means administering two versions; and
  * it means some restriction of its use.

So I prefer what Rick has proposed - if it can be made to
work.  But if it doesn't, I can't think of a better choice than
Plan B, although the "work for Sun/Company-X" option that
BerlinBrown suggested might work if the right job offer
came along.

If Plan B were implemented in a reasonable way, with
licence fees not unreasonable and with open source
guarantees not too far away, then surely the goodwill
would remain - especially if it were essential for the survival
of the project.  And if goodwill remains, and guarantees
remain, surely mind-share would remain???

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