+1 for swing

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Luke VanderHart
<luke.vanderh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My side project is a fairly complex GUI application written in
> Clojure. Recently, I've become irritated with using Java interop for
> everything. It's not that Clojure doesn't have nice java interop - it
> does. It's just that when interacting with a GUI framework, which is a
> large part of my app, I have to be back in mutable object-oriented
> land, worrying about class hierarchies, mutable state, locks, etc.
> Yucky.
>
> So, with a perhaps dangerous lack of sanity and without any guarantee
> of success, I've decided to try my hand at writing an idiomatic
> Clojure GUI library. If I have success (which I doubt) I will of
> course make it available as open source.
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> I intend for it to be mostly declarative, with a nice DSL for defining
> GUI elements. Each component will also implement map, and use one of
> Clojure's reference types as an interface for inspecting / updating
> its state. I may also implement some aspects of Functional Reactive
> Programming wherever it's convenient to do so.
>
> What you all must help me decide is what GUI framework to use as the
> underpinnings of it. It's genuinely hard to decide. I have at least
> some experience with all of them, so I have no strong preference, but
> I'd like to get your input. I did consider trying to make it abstract
> enough that you could plug in *any* of them under the hood, but
> there's enough differences between the frameworks that that would get
> very ugly very fast.
>
> Possibilities are:
>
> AWT
> Pros: native widgets, bundled with Java, low-level
> Cons: few widgets, considered somewhat obselete
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> Swing
> Pros: bundled with Java, good widget selection
> Cons: non-native widgets
>
> SWT
> Pros: native widgets, widely used
> Cons: requires platform-specific libs
>
> QT Jambi
> Pros: native widgets, huge widget selection, highly-regarded framework
> Cons: requires platform-specific libs, writing custom widgets is
> hairy, momentum and support seem to be lagging since Nokia dropped
> official support.
>
> Remember, the actual API won't matter - that will be completely
> abstracted away. So try to focus on the framework's look and feel.
> Also let me know if I've missed any of the framework's key
> characteristics.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Luke
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