> > If folks find the Java stack intimidating, maybe Clojure isn't for > them? Lots of language run on the JVM and they all require some basic > knowledge of classpaths, build tools and existing IDEs such as > Ecliper, NetBeans, IntelliJ etc. If folks are new to all that, I don't > think it's Clojure's job to teach them - there's plenty of literature > out there about the JVM environment and tools. > > Groovy have an out of the box editor you just have to double-click to start. Jython have an installer. Other JVM languages are ahead of clojure for out-of-the-box ease of use. Lacking in that regard is *not* a feature. Also, it's unreasonable to expect people to understand all the complex java ways when they start out with the language. There is a lot of documentation about Java, but how are newbs supposed to know where to start?
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