2010/9/9 Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-googlegroups.620...@mired.org>:
> I've spent far more time evaluating clojure than I had expected
> to. Part of the problem is that I'm of two minds. I love the language
> - it seems to mix in just the right bits of LISP, data structures from
> modern dynamic languages, and functional programming.
>
> On the other hand, I'm repelled by the java infrastructure around
> it. Having been brought up on Unix systems and the software tools
> approach (well, exposed to them relatively early, anyway), I'm a firm
> believer that simple things should be simple, and complex things
> should be possible. That's fundamental, but the Java world seems to
> have forgotten it, and everything is targeted at building large
> systems. If you want to do something simple, it seems you still have
> to go through the dance required to do complex things.
>
> So, I'm asking for someone to show me I'm wrong. In particular, if I
> wanted to deploy a simple web app (the classic "Hello World") on your
> favorite java or clojure web framework, how many lines of text do I
> have to deal with?  Most importantly, how many of those are program
> text, and how many are framework boilerplate(*)? Finally, how many
> tools do I have to use to get it deployed(+)?

Is there a limit on the line length ? :-p
>
> For good Unix tools, the answers are 3, 0 and 1.
>
>    <mike
>
> *) If some tools generates files that are used, only files that I have
>   to change count, but all the lines in those files count. Blank lines
>   added to improve readability don't count.
> +) Not counting whatever is required to get the web server ready to
>   deploy arbitrary applications (war files or whatever), or a text
>   editor, so long as it's *any* text editor, and not a specific one.
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