You can use Visual VM (https://visualvm.dev.java.net/) to see how the
VM is using memory.  I don't think it specifically show a log of GC
activity, but it is pretty clear from the graphs.

mch

On Nov 5, 8:41 am, "pepijn (aka fliebel)" <pepijnde...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I don't know how to check the GC activity on my project, but I did run
> Mian on Jython. It performs much like my initial Clojure version. It
> consumes absurd amounts of memory and never finishes.
>
> So I think we can safely say that Java's GC or the way it stores data
> is less efficient on this type of problem than Python.
>
> On Nov 4, 10:43 pm, Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-googlegroups.
>
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> 620...@mired.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 22:28:12 +0100
> > Pepijn de Vos <pepijnde...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > I have written a Python script to analyze Minecraft levels and render a 
> > > graph. Then I did the same with Clojure. It takes Python 10 seconds to 
> > > analyze a map, while it takes Clojure over a minute.
>
> > > After having tried different options without any significant improvement, 
> > > I am lost as to why there is such a huge difference. I wouldn't mind an 
> > > extra pair of eyes/brains to look at this.
>
> > > I blogged about it in more detail 
> > > here:http://pepijndevos.nl/clojure-versus-python
> > > Clojure version:https://github.com/pepijndevos/Clomian/
> > > Python version:https://github.com/l0b0/mian
>
> > > Clojure spends most of its time in the freqs function, here are a couple 
> > > of variations:https://gist.github.com/663096
>
> > > If you want to run the code yourself, you'll need a Minecraft level and 
> > > JNBT, which is not on Maven.
> > > JNBT:http://jnbt.sourceforge.net/
> > > The level used in the blogpost:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10094764/World2.zip
>
> > Can you check GC activity in the clojure version?
>
> > I once ran into an issue where Python was running rings around an
> > Eiffel version (compiled down to native code - no VM need apply). This
> > looks similar to what you have, in that I built a large data
> > structure, and then started groveling over it. Turned out that Eiffel
> > was doing a mark-and-sweep GC, which was spending all of it's time
> > marking and sweeping the large static data structure, whereas python
> > doing a reference count GC didn't. Given that I know nothing about
> > Java GCs, this is just a WAG.
>
> > Come to think of it, how about trying to run the program Jython? That
> > should have the same GC issues. If it's some similar environmental
> > problem, that would show up there as well.
>
> >      <mike
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> > Mike Meyer <m...@mired.org>          http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
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