On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Alex Osborne <a...@meshy.org> wrote:
> Alyssa Kwan <alyssa.c.k...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Perfect!  That makes things so much easier!  I assume that interning
>> vars is synchronized then?  This is the second big source code read
>> FAIL in two days.  Obviously I can't read.  :)
>
> They're stored in an AtomicReference (basically an atom).

Eww. Wouldn't a java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap give better
performance in highly parallel situations?

Then again, var interning isn't exactly the commonest of run-time
operations, except when the program running is a development REPL, and
that tends to be I/O bound, spending most of its time waiting for a
response from the 30- to 40-baud Homo sapiens at the other end of the
connection.

Still, it probably wouldn't *hurt*. Who knows what future applications
might need to intern vars in a tight loop for some purpose? One day we
might have a fairly fast AI on the other end of that REPL instead of a
human. Or something.

>> Because it's not at compile time, I don't have access to the expr that
>> generates the function.  Stuart Halloway mentioned an invoke-time
>> check for recompilation, which I assume requires the function to hang
>> onto the expr and lexical environment which generates it.  AFAICT,
>> there is no such reference, and invoke-time lookups through vars are
>> still being used; I'm probably not looking in the right place.
>
> I can't find something like that either and I can't see why it would
> exist.  Perhaps he was talking about JIT recompilation, not source
> recompilation?

If so, Alyssa's concern is moot; JIT recompilation would just
translate the pre-existing bytecodes in a deterministic manner. If the
bytecodes work properly when invoked and the JIT compiler lacks bugs,
the JIT-compiled code will also work properly, lexical environment be
damned.

If the recompilation at issue involves regenerating bytecode from
s-expressions, on the other hand, it's a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

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