Hey,

I am trying Gloss for reading NBT [1] files.

First thing I did like is that it seems to make things real easy.
First thing I did not like is the weak separation between types
like :byte and extra data like :foo.

I think I'm nearly done with the NBT reader [2], but I ran into a
problem. Whatever I put in the header form, I get exceptions like
this:

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: No implementation of
method: :sizeof of protocol: #'gloss.core.protocols/Writer found for
class: clojure.lang.PersistentVector

Only thing it mentions in the stacktrace [3] is methods on a reify,
which calls the same method again, or in the most recent case, just
return nil.

[1] http://www.minecraft.net/docs/NBT.txt
[2] https://gist.github.com/761997
[3] http://pastebin.com/AqrsbjuS

On Nov 28 2010, 8:14 pm, Zach Tellman <ztell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You're right, that's an omission from the frame syntax.  I'll add the
> ability for all or part of the frame to be scoped as (little-
> endian ...) and (big-endian ...), with big-endian as the default.
>
> Just as a side-note, though, Calx [1] is already handling little-
> endian data by using encode-to-buffer, where it's writing to a buffer
> whose endianness has been preset.   This obviously isn't a general
> solution, but just thought I'd point it out.
>
> Zach
>
> [1]https://github.com/ztellman/calx
>
> On Nov 28, 8:50 am, zoka <ztomi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > If Gloss is to decode incoming packet (byte array) in little-endian
> > format it is straightforward:
> > Wrap byte array into ByteBuffer b, invoke b.order(LITTLE_ENDIAN) and
> > pass b to decode function that will return Clojure map of decoded
> > values.
>
> > However, when outgoing packet byte array is to be produced from map of
> > values, encode function will always return ByteBuffer in default big-
> > endian format, so resulting byte array extracted form ByteBuffer using
> > get() method will be incorrect.
>
> > If Gloss is to support little-endian frames, it seems that endianness
> > needs to be part of frame definition. In that case Gloss decode fun
> > would refuse to accept ByteBuffers with wrong order() and encode fun
> > will always generate the correct result.
>
> > Zoka
>
> > On Nov 25, 3:00 am, Zach Tellman <ztell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > ByteBuffers have an order() method which allows you to toggle the
> > > endianness.  I haven't tested this, but since everything is built on
> > > top of Java's ByteBuffer functionality it should be fine as long as
> > > the ByteBuffers are correctly set and correctly ordered with respect
> > > to each other.
>
> > > Zach
>
> > > On Nov 23, 2:52 pm, zoka <ztomi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > JVM stores numbers in in big endian format - is there a way to process
> > > > binary stream containing little endian numbers?
>
> > > > Zoka
>
> > > > On Nov 24, 7:24 am, Zach Tellman <ztell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Good question.  The solution didn't make the cut for my initial
> > > > > release, but will be added soon.  My plan is to have an (ordered-
> > > > > map ...) frame which encodes and decodes the keys in the given order.
> > > > > So for C interop, the frame would be
>
> > > > > (ordered-map :a :int16, :b :float32)
>
> > > > > An alternative would be to just turn any vector which is alternating
> > > > > keys and types into an ordered-map, but that seems a bit too magical.
>
> > > > > Zach
>
> > > > > On Nov 23, 12:12 pm, Chris Perkins <chrisperkin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Nov 23, 12:03 pm, Zach Tellman <ztell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > When writing Calx [1], I discovered it was a huge pain to deal 
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > mixed C datatypes in Java.  When writing Aleph [2], I discovered 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > problem increases by a factor of ten when dealing with streams of
> > > > > > > bytes.  In an attempt to alleviate my own pain, and hopefully 
> > > > > > > help a
> > > > > > > few other people out, I've written Gloss, which can transform a 
> > > > > > > simple
> > > > > > > byte-format specification into an encoder and streaming decoder.
>
> > > > > > > A full writeup can be found 
> > > > > > > athttps://github.com/ztellman/gloss/wiki.
>
> > > > > > > A few people have already asked me how this differs from protocol
> > > > > > > buffers, so I'll preemptively answer that protocol buffers are a 
> > > > > > > fixed
> > > > > > > format that cannot be used to interface with external systems.  
> > > > > > > Gloss
> > > > > > > is less performant than protocol buffers, but is also much less 
> > > > > > > picky
> > > > > > > about formats.
>
> > > > > > > If anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
>
> > > > > > Looks very useful, Zach. Thanks.
>
> > > > > > I have a question.
>
> > > > > > I have only taken a quick look, so maybe I'm misunderstanding the
> > > > > > intent, but it's not clear to me how you would use this for sending
> > > > > > and receiving structured data from, say, a C program.
>
> > > > > > Taking your example from the wiki:
>
> > > > > > (def fr (compile-frame {:a :int16, :b :float32}))
>
> > > > > > Let's say I want to talk to a C program that speaks in structs, like
> > > > > > this:
>
> > > > > > struct Foo { short a; float b; }
>
> > > > > > The problem is, the C program cares about order - the short comes
> > > > > > before the float. How does the Clojure program know what order I 
> > > > > > need
> > > > > > the fields in, since I have specified the format with a map; an
> > > > > > unordered data structure? Is there another way to specify a 
> > > > > > structure
> > > > > > where order of the fields matters? If so, why have two ways of doing
> > > > > > it? Or am I just missing something?
>
> > > > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > > > - Chris

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