Hi Devin,

On Thursday, August 4, 2011 5:14:19 AM UTC+2, Devin Walters (devn) wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Stefan Kamphausen wrote:
>
> inc
>
> IMHO there are three types of people coming to Clojure
>
>
>    1. Java Programmers
>    2. Old-school lispers
>    3. all the other, who just want to try (and possibly follow the 
>    examples in a tutorial or book)
>
> [...]
>
> To me it seems important to get the common misunderstandings and problems 
> out of the way for groups 1 and 2.  The Java-programmers will need more help 
> to get going with REPL-oriented programming an to integrate Clojure in their 
> (existing) Java-programs, whereas the old-school lispers (OSPs? ;-) need a 
> hand getting around in the Java ecosystem (mvn, jar, war, classpath, etc).
>
>
> The "other" category you mentioned needs just as much help with 
> REPL-oriented programming. A solid editor-agnostic screencast on this style 
> of development would do quite a bit of good, I think. The rhythm can be a 
> bit fast for beginners when they don't see how you hit a hotkey to 
> re-evaluate a form in your source in the REPL, for instance.
>

Alas, if only one had more time... 

I still remember the first SLIME screencast which was a real eye-opener 
[1].  It's just, that as a beginner you want to see how the more experienced 
really work.  I had the luck an pleasure to spend a few days with Edi Weitz 
when I finally started with CL after years of Elisp.  A screencast would be 
the next closest thing, I guess.


Cheers,
Stefan

Footnotes:
[1] slime.mov by Marco Barringer; seems to be mostly gone from the usual 
places.

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