While I understand and respect the importance of focussing discussions to the 
making of things, surely there is more to a community communication substrate 
than this sole category of topic. 

Do these guidelines, therefore, attempt preclude threads such as the discussion 
on the possible impact of new technologies (i.e. Dart), constructive 
discussions on development practices (i.e. REPL-driven-dev vs TDD), links to 
newly discovered external resources (i.e. new presentations/slidedecks) and 
general positive opinion "Wow, that was cool! Thanks so much for making that 
:-)"

Perhaps much of this discussion would be better moved to the comments of 
external blogs? Still, it feels to me that the ability to constructively 
express and communicate *positive* opinion is a powerful source of energy which 
can cultivate enthusiasm and a general positive attitude within any community. 
I feel that because we're a technical community means we should be spending 
more care and effort fostering these social elements rather than trying to 
suppress/eradicate them.

Sam

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On 15 Oct 2011, at 19:02, Rich Hickey wrote:

> This is just a reminder. While in general our communication here is very 
> good, occasionally it goes astray.
> 
> These mailing lists are run by, and for, people who make things. Most 
> messages should have one of these forms:
> 
> I made something - here is my contribution
> I am trying to use the thing someone made and am having trouble, please help.
> I can help you with that thing someone made.
> I am trying to make something and am having trouble, please help.
> I can help you make something.
> 
> They are not the place for opinion pieces and diatribes.
> 
> They are not the place for advocacy about what 'ought' to be made. If you 
> think something ought to be made, then make it. Otherwise, respect others 
> peoples' right to choose what they do with their time.
> 
> Occasionally, there may be disagreements about how something has been, or 
> will be, made. These disagreements should take the form of technical 
> arguments. To make a technical argument that gets (and gives!) respect:
> 
> Keep it short
> Stick to the facts
> Use logic
> Leave people out of it
> Avoid rhetorical devices:
>       Superfluous or opinion-laden adjectives
>       Claims to speak for the community, or that everyone agrees with you.
>       Threats of what will happen unless things go your way
>       Any flavor of 'the sky is falling'
> 
> If you are not the one making something, you should restrict your input to 
> very short technical arguments supporting your position. If someone has 
> already made your point, just +1 it.
> 
> Please keep your posts short.
> 
> Ignoring these guidelines fails to respect the time and effort of people who 
> make things, which you should care about if you intend to be one.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rich
> 
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