On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Alexander Yakushev
<yakushev.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 27, 9:13 pm, Cedric Greevey <cgree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Whoa, hold your horses. Aren't "Decent" and "Emacs-based" mutually-exclusive?
>
> No, they are not.
>
>> "Novice-friendly" and "Emacs-based" definitely are.
>
> Well, if we are considering a novice in software development then you
> are probably right. I was particularly talking about new users of
> Clojure. A seasoned developer can get acquainted with Emacs pretty
> easily and fast. Perhaps without the hairloss you described.
>
>> Sorry, but this is probably a nonstarter...
>
> It could be, it could be not. After all I suppose the biggest part of
> the Clojure community still uses Emacs and I see a constant growth of
> reasons to it. CDT which I had not heard of until recently is a tool
> of a great usability improvement. This means that Emacs still matters
> for Clojure developers. And I don't think this is where you should
> apply a strict dichotomy between the hairy dudes stuck in middle ages
> with Emacs and all others who are used to common principles of Eclipse/
> VS/etc. The usability is not 0 or 1, it is a ladder with lots of small
> steps. The higher you get the more users you have.

The emacs learning curve is more like a vertical cliff face than a
ladder with lots of small steps...

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