+1 

Accepting CAs by mail would be very welcome. 

The impact of this until now is something quite difficult to measure, since 
potential contributors maybe never voiced their interest and just quit when 
they get to know the effort (or cost) required. But it probably makes a 
difference when a process takes days vs minutes. 

Something that is certain, is that it wouldn't hurt to allow it by mail, 
unless there is some reason I can't think of. 
This maybe won't change the situations for sizable contributions, but I 
would bet this would translate in an increase in bug fixes/reports. 

Max


On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:59:48 PM UTC+2, Michael Klishin wrote:
>
> Paul deGrandis:
>>
>> 4.) What are the limitations behind changing the CA process?  Can the CA 
>> process be made digital (a scan of a signed CA, SSH shared key, OAuth 
>> credential confirmation) or potentially reformed to allow more of the 
>> community to easily get involved, especially for smaller patches or doc 
>> changes?
>> After looking at similar communities (Scala - 
>> http://docs.scala-lang.org/sips/sip-submission.html, Python - 
>> http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/), it seems like there are potential 
>> improvements we could make as the language, ecosystem, and community evolve.
>>
>>
> It would be great if someone from clojure/core could explain why CAs have 
> to be submitted via snail mail.
>
> Oracle, OpenJDK, ASF, Neo Technologies and several other companies accept 
> CAs as PDFs. From my personal
> experience with neo4j, it takes no more than a day to submit and have your 
> CA confirmed.
>
> Sounds like if something is legally acceptable for Oracle, ASF, OpenJDK 
> and significantly smaller yet
> not exactly young companies, it can work well for Clojure?
>
> The current process definitely does not take a day and is problematic for 
> people who live outside of
> North America and Western Europe. People in Russia, South America, Asia 
> don't necessarily have
> the luxury of cheap, reliable, fast snail mail delivery to North Carolina. 
> FedEx and friends
> charge over $200 for a single sheet of paper mailed to Durham, NC from 
> Moscow. $200+ for an
> opportunity to spend my time contributing to an OSS project in this age of 
> GitHub sounds
> a little unreasonable.
>
> Last time I asked a clojure/core member about this I was told "that's too 
> bad". I don't
> have an opportunity to go to the Conj, don't have access to clojure-dev 
> and consider myself
> a pretty active contributor to the ecosystem via clojurewerkz.org. I am 
> sure there are many other
> people like me in the same situation. Please, clojure/core, explain why 
> the CA
> process has to be so archaic.
>
> MK 
>

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