FWIW, I've been using Clojure seriously for a couple of years now and never really used Leiningen.
I've found that Eclipse with the awesome "Counterclockwise" plugin does everything that I need. This is also pretty easy for newcomers (assuming they know Eclipse) - just install the Counterclockwise plugin, create a Clojure project and code away. I use straight, regular Maven for build management, which does all of the dependency management stuff you need from Leiningen. Nothing against Leiningen, it is certainly a powerful toolset. However I prefer IDEs to command line tools, and I also do quite a bit of Java development so having an integrated IDE that does both Clojure and Java is much more useful to me. So basically Clojure gives you a choice of different toolchains to suit your preferences and environment. That's a good thing overall, though I still agree that it would be better if there were more "newcomer friendly" distributions. In particular, a GUI-based REPL that people can use to just "launch and play" without learning a host of command line options or setting up an entire build environment would be an awesome addition if anyone feels inclined to create one. An evolution of https://github.com/alandipert/clj-swingrepl perhaps, maybe with a WebStart option so people can run it without having to download / install anything. On Friday, 15 February 2013 02:42:57 UTC+8, BJG145 wrote: > > Having studied Lisp decades ago I like the look of Clojure a lot. But as a > complete newbie when it comes to modern software development, I'm > exasperated by what strikes me as a very difficult and primitive set of > tools to get started. I keep seeing "Leinigen, Leinigen", and the Leinigen > homepage boasts that "Leinigen offers the easiest way to get started with > Clojure", but this simply isn't true. The easiest way to get started with > Clojure that I've come across so far is IntelliJ IDEA. If I hadn't found > that I'd probably have given up by now. > > What got me back into programming recently was a Lua-based development > environment for Android called Gideros. Lua seems popular for developing > apps for some reason. (Cf Corona, Moia, Unity). It seems like quite a neat > language, though I'd like to use something more Lisp-like. Maybe the tools > are just too difficult for me at the moment, though I'll persevere for a > bit. I'd like to achieve some simple graphics on an Android device at > least. I've come across some tutorials for CLojure and jMonkey and I'm > wondering to dive into that, though I'm still unsure whether OpenGL is the > way to go for simple 2D stuff... > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
