Yes, just zipping up a clean eclipse+ccw was my first thought too, but the resulting file is rather large 200MB or so, so we'd need to find hosting for that.
On Friday, February 15, 2013 6:09:14 PM UTC+1, vemv wrote: > > Now I think it, if automating the CCW plugin install is too difficult > (Eclipse is very script-unfriendly) we could just mantain an > already-configured setup ready to download. In other words, zipping and > uploading a clean `eclipse` folder. > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Víctor M. V. <ve...@vemv.net<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> on the CCW hang you mention - I saw an issue that was marked as >> "critical" on the bug tracker, two weeks ago. As I can't find it anymore I >> assume it's been fixed. Are you sure you're using the absolute latest >> version? >> >> If you are, you should open an issue. >> >> I like your idea. Assuming curl is installed, when running `lein.bat >> self-install` the user could be asked whether he wants to download "a fully >> functioning Clojure development environment" or something like that. >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Jules <jules...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>>wrote: >> >>> By the way, I've been trying to write an install script for windows that >>> installs leiningen + CCW. Creating a folder for all Clojure stuff, putting >>> that folder on the PATH, downloading lein.bat, running lein self-install, >>> downloading eclipse works OK. So far there are two problems I ran into that >>> prevented full installation: >>> >>> 1. How to install CCW into eclipse from the command line? There should >>> be a way to do it according to this page: >>> http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/guide/p2_director.htmlbut >>> I haven't been able to come up with an actual command that succesfully >>> installs CCW. I suppose the -repository should have the ccw update site, >>> but what should be the -installIU argument? >>> >>> 2. How to prevent CCW from hanging when creating a leiningen project. >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 15, 2013 5:19:01 PM UTC+1, Jules wrote: >>>> >>>> lpetit, I'll describe my experience with CCW on windows. Installing CCW >>>> is fairly easy, though not as easy as just downloading and running. If you >>>> go to the counterclockwise site (https://code.google.com/p/** >>>> counterclockwise/ <https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/>) it is >>>> reasonably clear what you should do, but not as clear as it could be by a >>>> long shot. New users would be inclined to click the download button on the >>>> top, which takes you to a page with two jars, which is not the correct way >>>> to install CCW. On the main page there are links, and one of them in the >>>> middle is "Installation / Feature description / >>>> Documentation<https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/wiki/Documentation#Install_Counterclockwise_plugin>". >>>> >>>> That should really be very prominent. On that page you find these >>>> instructions, among a page with a lot of other stuff: >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> Pre-requisites: >>>> >>>> - Java Virtual Machine (JVM) 6 or higher (for running Eclipse. Your >>>> projects can still use Java 5) >>>> - Eclipse 3.5 or higher installed : "Eclipse SDK" package, "Eclipse >>>> for Java Developers" package, "Eclipse for Java EE Developers" package, >>>> etc. (really, any packaging including JDT -Java Development Tools- >>>> features >>>> will work) >>>> >>>> Update site : >>>> http://ccw.cgrand.net/**updatesite/<http://ccw.cgrand.net/updatesite/> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> So you download java 6+. Then you download eclipse, which uses a >>>> non-standard way to install (on windows). But then what? Turns out you >>>> have to go to Help -> Install new software, paste that url, select >>>> counterclockwise, press next a couple of times and then you're good to go. >>>> >>>> But now you still don't have leiningen, which is essential if you want >>>> to do anything non toy. The installation page of CCW does describe how to >>>> create a leiningen project, but doesn't say that you first have to >>>> manually >>>> install leiningen. Even if you manage to install it, which is quite a feat >>>> for a newbie (as described previously), how do you then use it from CCW? >>>> For me, if I create a new leiningen project, the a new project gets >>>> created >>>> but then the IDE hangs and the project doesn't have anything in it... >>>> >>>> A quick way to improve the situation is to make it prominently clear on >>>> the homepage of CCW what the steps are for installing a full featured CCW >>>> + >>>> leiningen. Even better would be to create a package to automate those >>>> steps >>>> of course. >>>> vemv, I don't know how the situation is now with Ruby, but when I used >>>> it it was really easy (and I did use it for non-toy purposes -- I got paid >>>> to use it). You downloaded the ruby installer, ran it, opened a command >>>> line and typed "gem install rails" and you have everything you need. The >>>> "it's hard no matter what you do if you use open source" really doesn't >>>> match with my experience. There *are* easy to use open source projects. >>>> Python is another example. You're right that there are a lot of open >>>> source >>>> projects that aren't as easy, like OCaml for example, and look >>>> how successful that is. But this isn't a pissing match between different >>>> projects. Don't we want people to use Clojure? >>>> >>>> Jules >>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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