Lee Spector <lspec...@hampshire.edu> writes: > I teach Clojure, to beginning programmers among others. > > IMHO you really have to specify your audience(s) before any advice about how > best to teach Clojure (or programming in general) will make much sense.
I'd absolutely agree with this. If you are teaching brand new programmers, then you really don't want to teach clojure at all; you want to teach programming, with the language being somewhat of a detail. You also need to know *why* you are teaching them. I teach differently if I am teaching new programmers hoping to gain a general understanding of computer science, than new programmers who have an immediate practical need. > Also IMHO (just trying to deflect some flames here) the Clojure > ecosystem currently lacks the ideal environment for this. Tend to agree with this also. As nice as leiningen is, Clojure seems to inherit from Java bulky projects. Compare these two hello worlds: (println "hello world") to #!/usr/bin/python print( "hello world" ) Both equivalently simple, up and till the point you actually try to run them. The best I came up with is... java -jar ~/.m2/repository/org/clojure/clojure/1.5.1/clojure-1.5.1.jar hello_world.clj which, of course, depends on me having installed leiningen and used it. > So this may be totally wrong for many of your purposes, but FWIW: > https://github.com/lspector/clojinc That's a nice idea. Phil -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
