Kendall, Refactoring is valuable especially when starting out, so that you can learn how to represent patterns well in Clojure, imo.
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Kendall Shaw <ks...@kendallshaw.com>wrote: > I might have come off as obnoxious. So, sorry about that. > > Now that I think about it some more, the question probably doesn't have a > procedure to suggest as an answer. It's in the same class as like "how do I > start" or "how can I stop asking so many questions". > > Kendall > > > On 10/19/2013 03:05 PM, Softaddicts wrote: > >> I read your post three times and now I need to get a couple of fuses >> replaced :) >> >> Holy smoke, it's Saturday man ! Most of us are probably trying to recover >> from the work week, give us a chance :))) >> >> Luc P. >> >> >> The question in the second paragraph depends on the belief that someone >>> could engage in pointless refactoring. >>> >>> There is an implied assertion that clojure's design provides more >>> opportunities for someone to engage in pointless refactoring. >>> >>> Disproving that someone could engage in pointless activity would miss >>> the point of the question. So, providing an example for that would >>> possibly lead to more confusion. >>> >>> If the implied asssertion about clojure's design were taken to further >>> imply that the design is flawed in those cases, this would also be >>> missing the point of the question. >>> >>> If cases in which clojure's design were flawed were not invented for >>> the purpose of pursuing this questioning. Without criticism of clojure's >>> design, specifics about how clojure could be used in a multitude of ways >>> to solve a problem, could be described by way of example. But, that >>> would also miss the point of the question. >>> >>> So, if the image of someone engaging in pointless refactoring reminds >>> you of an experience that you have had, and if you can use that as the >>> model for a general case, how would you suggest preventing the general >>> case from being made actual, in the future? >>> >>> Kendall >>> >>> On 10/19/2013 12:35 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote: >>> >>>> Can you give a concrete example? >>>> >>>> Le samedi 19 octobre 2013, Kendall Shaw a écrit : >>>> >>>> With clojure in particular, I am having trouble not rearranging my >>>> code to be what I think is more optimal in ways that seem probably >>>> not practical. I've noticed myself doing that when I'm newish to >>>> languages and apis. But, I go bonkers with clojure. >>>> >>>> Do you have any thoughts about how to avoid that, other than Bob >>>> Newhart's advice: >>>> >>>> Bob Newhart-Stop It >>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=Ow0lr63y4Mw<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0lr63y4Mw> >>>> > >>>> >>>> Kendall >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>> with your first post. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >>>> clojure+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> >>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/clojure?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en> >>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>> Google Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email to >>>> clojure+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>> with your first post. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> clojure+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/clojure?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to >>>> clojure+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ThisIsHardToRead, asIsThis. This_is_easier, unless_it_is_underlined. >>> This.is.easy. This-is-easy-too. 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This_is_easier, unless_it_is_underlined. > This.is.easy. This-is-easy-too. 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