Got it, thanks!  I’ve always wanted to use Beanstalk, but figured it would have 
some limitations…

On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Justin Smith <noisesm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Usually elastic beanstalk or ec2 (beanstalk is simpler and trivial to make 
> scale, but less flexible so sometimes we need to fall back on using an ec2 
> instance). In either case we typically a clojure war into a tomcat container. 
> As long as you remember to keep your permgen large enough it is pretty simple.
> 
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:49:16 PM UTC-8, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
> Thanks, Justin.  These are great points!  I especially like the simplicity of 
> deployment.  Do you folks use Heroku, AWS, or some other hosting service?
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Justin Smith <noise...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I'm part of the Caribou team, which started as an in-house tool (and 
>> continues to serve that purpose).
>> 
>> A few advantages of clojure in the webapp space, off the top of my head:
>> 
>> Clojure provides execution efficiency that Ruby or Python cannot match. This 
>> translates to lowered hosting costs.
>> 
>> The lein tool provides very clean and isolated dependency management, that 
>> makes setting up dev environments and deployment very straightforward.
>> 
>> Targeting the JVM means that each deploy can be a single jar or war file 
>> that you upload to the server.
>> 
>> The ring middleware system is a very clean way of including functionality in 
>> an app.
>> 
>> Working with immutable data structures and threadsafe bindings as a 
>> pervasive default does a lot for stability, and rules out many of the round 
>> about ways one of heisenbugs end up in the system.
>> 
>> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:38:49 PM UTC-8, Marcus Blankenship wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> We’re a Python / Django shop, and some folks are getting excited about using 
>> Clojure for building web apps.  Certainly there are numerous open-source 
>> options to assist us (Pedastal, Ring, Compojure, Caribou, etc), but I think 
>> it begs a larger question: as a rule, do web applications need the power 
>> that Clojure brings to the table?
>> 
>> Other folks on my team are telling me that solutions built with Python / 
>> Django (or even RubyOnRails) fully satisfy the needs of 99% of the web apps 
>> we have built, and that Clojure offers nothing new to this problem space.  
>> 
>> So, here’s the question: How are you are actually using Clojure, and why did 
>> you choose to use it, particularly in the “web application” space?  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
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