On 14 November 2013 16:22, Brian Craft <craft.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't believe the legos analogy is very accurate for clojure. Or, > rather, it's more of a vision than a reality. I'm unaware of any libraries > in clojure that you can piece together to give you the features of > django-south, django admin, and the forms/validation/db layers, for > example. Today, clojure web libraries are more like an auto parts store: > your chance of putting together a complete car from the inventory is slim > indeed, and your chance of doing it in a timely fashion is exactly zero. > Except people *are* developing web applications in Clojure, so clearly this isn't an accurate statement. I certainly wouldn't be using Clojure for the web if it took longer to develop in. It's my opinion that every non-trivial web application I've ever written in Rails would have been faster to write in Clojure. Also, the overwhelming majority of db and web work is boilerplate. That's > what django provides: all the mindless boilerplate that is completely > uninteresting to your problem domain, but necessary to launch a web site. This certainly hasn't been my experience. Can you be certain this isn't a symptom of the tool you're using? Frameworks like Django and Rails are designed to build web applications in a very specific way, and this involves generating a lot of database and HTML boilerplate. I can't say for sure whether it's because of Clojure, or because I'm working on different problems these days, but I don't tend to deal with the same issues I did when I used Rails. Nowadays I find myself building systems out of small, isolated components, which seem to eliminate a lot of issues Rails was designed to work around. For instance, database migrations. This was something I thought about a lot a few years ago, until I gradually realised that I wasn't finding myself in any situations where I needed them. - James -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
