Hi Massimiliano. The absence of a well-established framework for web development in Clojure is not a sign of its immaturity (rather the opposite). Web frameworks can give you some increased productivity to begin with, but as soon as you need to do something that isn't naturally supported by your chosen web framework you're in trouble, and that's when productivity drops off a cliff as you struggle to bend the web framework to your requirements. For example, you choose a web framework with good REST support, then find out later you need to add web sockets.
I've written and deployed about a dozen serious web applications using Clojure. My opinion is the best strategy that guarantees long-term productivity is to build your system from a set of smaller components that you choose 'a la carte'. That way, if your requirements change you can swap in and out other components as you need to. I would guess that the vast majority of Clojure web applications are written this way, which is why you don't see widescale adoption of a particular web 'framework' by the Clojure community. Instead, Clojure developers pick from a set of constituent parts: Jetty, http-kit, Ring, Compojure, Hiccup, Enlive, Stencil, Liberator, domina, dommy, C2, Om, <shameless-plug>bidi</shameless-plug>, and so on and so on. The fact that these components all fit together so well is one of the truly outstanding features of the Clojure platform. Few languages come close to this level of integration, which is why they actively curate frameworks. Investing time in Clojure is both pleasurable and productive. It's a question of whether you want 'short-term' productivity to meet a particular project goal (choose a web framework), or sustainable productivity to deliver value to your users over the longer term (choose to learn, understand and utilize a set of components from the wide pool that the Clojure community has created). Regards, Malcolm On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:06:20 PM UTC, Massimiliano Tomassoli wrote: > > Hi, > I'm not sure if Clojure is the right language for me. I'd like to use > Clojure mainly for web development but I don't know if it's already mature > enough to be productive. For instance, Scala has Play, Groovy has Grails, > etc... If I'm not wrong, Clojure doesn't have a well-established framework > for web development. I'm intrigued by Clojure because I like functional > programming, but I need to be productive and, alas, I don't have time to > learn Clojure just for my pleasure. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
