There's been a trend against overuse of inheritance, first with java
removing multiple-inheritance and the various private/protected nuanced
inheritances, then generally accepted advice like 'prefer composition over
inheritance'.  Some people were still feeling the pain, and some of those
are now using clojure partly because of it.  With the whole 'decomplecting'
philosophy, we have a way to talk about why it's so.

I can just speak for myself, but finding someone defending it here is
surprising.

Also, clojure does have at least as many OOP trimmings as java, it's just
made it easier to avoid them.  When you say 'non-OOP languages that don't
have classes',  I don't think that includes clojure.  It is a java
underbelly by design, and java doesn't have open classes.  Clojurescript
gains some freedom via javascript's dynamic behavior, but the same
abstractions (protocols) are applicable and useful there.


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Massimiliano Tomassoli
<kiuhn...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Monday, December 30, 2013 6:46:13 PM UTC+1, tbc++ wrote:
>>
>> And what Cedric says is correct, encapsulation is rarely a good thing,
>> and inheritance is overrated.
>>
>
> That's your opinion, not a fact.
> By saying that something is overrated you're just admitting that many
> people don't agree with you.
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