Gary

Pressing "Perform GC" reduced the Used Heap figures to 14Mb and 13Mb but I now see these climbing to new heights while the app is completely idle. JVM and main are now both using 75Mb each and climbing. This does not inspire confidence for an app which is sitting idle.

gvim


On 09/01/2014 06:27, Gary Trakhman wrote:
what happens to the heap if you manually trigger a GC via the button?


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:01 AM, gvim <gvi...@gmail.com
<mailto:gvi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Here's the date from `jvisualvm`:

    JVM:
        char[]  19%
        java.lang.object   15.5%
        java.util.TreeMap$Entry  12%
        java.io.ObjectStreamClass$__WeakClassKey   11%
        byte[]    11%
        int[]   6%

    main:
        char[]   24%
        byte[]   17%
        java.lang.object   14%
        java.util.TreeMap$Entry  10%
        java.io.ObjectStreamClass$__WeakClassKey   10%
        int[]   6%


    Heap size: 366Mb
    Used heap: 85Mb

    gvim



    On 09/01/2014 04:32, Gary Trakhman wrote:

        you're still missing some basics about java memory management.  In
        another thread, I mentioned the java VM will take more memory
        than it
        needs, that is because it prioritizes throughput over footprint.
          There
        are knobs for all of that.  It's not clear what's taking so much
        memory,
        but it's certainly not luminus or clojure.  Use jvisualVM to
        find out
        for sure instead of comparing apples to oranges.


        On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM, gvim <gvi...@gmail.com
        <mailto:gvi...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:gvi...@gmail.com <mailto:gvi...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

             On OS X Mountain Lion I just compared the memory footprint of 3
             out-of-the-box web apps in these frameworks:

             Clojure/Luminus:  152Mb (JVM) + 186Mb (main) = 338Mb

             Ruby/Rails: 62Mb

             Elixir (Erlang)/Weber: 32Mb

             I was rather shocked, to say the least. Not to troll, it
        has made me
             think again about deploying Clojure web apps on hosting
        platforms
             with modest amounts RAM. I'm sure the figures for all 3 would
             increase significantly once the web apps are fleshed out
        but that
             probably applies equally to all 3 frameworks.

             gvim


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