>From the other direction, tuning a super-fast GC occasionally is way more
fun than malloc/free!

I just found that enabling G1 was a quick hit for me.  When I run that many
clojure processes, some 700MB heaps mostly wasted at steady-state tends to
hurt.  As far as I can tell, there's no performance hit by doing so, and it
will be the default eventually.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Timothy Baldridge <tbaldri...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Just be aware, that Erlang VM doesn't even come close to the performance
> of the JVM. For example, Erjang (Erlang on the JVM) runs up to 6000% faster
> than stock Erlang: http://codemesh.io/slides/kresten-krab-thorup.pdf
>
> So it's a trade-off like most things. The JVM takes a bit more memory from
> the OS, and doesn't like to give it back, but on the upside you get the
> world's fastest VM to run on.
>
> Just an appeal to future readers of this thread to consider all the
> pros/cons before locking onto a single one (like perceived memory usage).
>
> Timothy
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Elixir's pretty neat. Apologies for the jvm :-).
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 9, 2014, gvim wrote:
>>
>>> After careful consideration I've concluded that, coming from a dynamic
>>> scripting language background, I just don't have the time or inclination to
>>> nurse-maid the JVM so Clojure isn't for me. Tuning GC and memory allocation
>>> doesn't seem to be necessary with Elixir on the Erlang VM which borrows a
>>> lot from Clojure yet retains the syntax style of Ruby.
>>>
>>> gvim
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/01/2014 01:46, Gary Trakhman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, this is exactly the behavior I was expecting.
>>>>
>>>> 14Mb is your actual memory footprint, the rest is waste due to the JVMs
>>>> aggressive memory retention policy.  See my earlier comment about trying
>>>> the G1 garbage collector and these:
>>>> https://twitter.com/gtrakGT/status/402569842361790464
>>>> http://www.stefankrause.net/wp/?p=14
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere there was a java bug reported that explicitly blamed the CMS
>>>> collector, I can't find it at the moment, but that is the default
>>>> collector in -server mode.
>>>>
>>>>
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