It's a sincere no from me, but I can tell you I've met plenty of 
non-clojurites/lispers who sneer at lisp it seems solely due to the 
parentheses.  It seems misguided to me though.

On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:14:36 PM UTC-7, Travis Wellman wrote:
>
> Francois Rey,
>
> Yes I've been following that project. They're going for purity, which 
> means reimplementing a lot of standard java stuff in Frege. Cool project, 
> but what I really want is Clojure. Everything Clojure without the parens. 
> So you'd get lists, and homoiconicity, and all the Clojure libs, but it 
> would look different.
>
> Part of posting here is to gauge whether, if I wrote such a thing to 
> scratch my own itch, anyone else would like it. So far I'm getting a pretty 
> sincere "no" it seems. It's partially a bad survey because the people here 
> are the people who like it here.
>
> Greg, Xtext is new to me, I'll look at it. Antlr is used in a project I'm 
> getting paid for right now, so I might try that.
>
> Gary, I think this is the essence of the maintainability problem. The 
> terseness of Clojure is pleasurable to the programmer, and they don't 
> compensate with documentation or longer function names. What you get is a 
> short statement that requires detangling levels of macros and abstractions 
> to understand. Honestly I wish programmers had to pay $20 to write a macro. 
> Macros are great but should very very rarely be used. Granted none of this 
> would be fundamentally changed with a new syntax, but I feel like if one 
> didn't begin a line with a paren, one might begin more lines instead of 
> nesting deeper; I could easily be wrong about that.
>
> Travis
>

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