I'm starting to feel like a broken record, but here we go. Some things to think about:
1) Why do you want this? The JVM GC and JIT are some of the fastest (if not the fastest) on the planet, so performance will never be a good reason to do this. 2) Do you want something like eval? As far as I can tell Swift is statically compiled. Only XCode has the ability to modify a program on the fly. 3) Clojure is highly polymorphic and dynamically typed. Walk the source code for first and next and you'll find something like 3-4 polymorphic calls involved in something as simple as (doseq [x (range 100)]), per item. 4) I have yet to see performance numbers for Swift....how fast/slow is it compared to other languages? To put this all into perspective, I once translated LazySeq to C++ and ran some code (with a GC) that performed something like (doall (range 100000)). The result was about 10x slower than Clojure on the JVM. So simply running something in C++/LLVM doesn't mean that you'll even get close to the performance of the JVM. Memory constrained systems might benefit from a LLVM Clojure. In addition there's room for improvement with the JVM's horrible warmup times. Python will boot instantly on most systems while the Clojure REPL takes about a minute to boot on the RPi. But aside form that, I can't see much of a point. If you want something like this there's always ( https://github.com/galdolber/clojure-objc) Timothy On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Greg Knapp <virtual.g...@gmail.com> wrote: > The recent release of Swift made me revisit Clojure on LLVM. This post > from 2010 > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojure/KrwtTsdYZ8I/Qf8PSMeoZCUJ> > suggests it's a very difficult task. > > Swift would make this job easier? As with ClojureScript, generate Swift > code / provide interop and Clojurian's can produce native iOS apps? > > Perhaps the biggest hole to be filled would be tooling (Xcode is not > Clojure/Lisp friendly? i.e. no playground support) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- “One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that–lacking zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs.” (Robert Firth) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
