Dom, We’re actually well aware of many of the flaws you have pointed out with Secretary. In fact, we even have open issues for some of them.
> While I value all of these features that Secretary lacks, I think that last > one, impurity, is the most significant... Mutation is always possible, but > uncontrolled mutation is frowned upon and intentionally difficult It is not as if we don’t understand the benefits of immutability or know Clojure idioms. There’s no need to school anyone. We're not n00bs here. :-) When I became a committer to the library I did what I could to improve what was already there. Personally, I do not like the overly complex macro that we have nor do I like the global state. These are just implementation details and it wouldn’t require too much effort to switch to something that’s immutable with a minimum amount of breaking change. We already have several vanilla functions for adding/removing routes that could easily be made stateless. The three of us (myself, Gianni, and Joel) have been busy and just haven’t had the chance to fix it. Anyway, you’ve done a great job enumerating your reasons for writing Silk and flaws about Secretary; some of it is accurate, some of it is misguided. I’m not going to return fire by addressing them because I don’t think it will make much of a difference. Really, what we need to do is work together. We can continue this discussion elsewhere. Joel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
