"I tweeted recently that I thought that Clojure is super testable, and I
was genuinely surprised about the number of people who disagreed with me."

My 2c.

Without explicitly citing those complaints, it will be difficult to conduct
a meaningful debate.

2014-10-31 14:52 GMT+00:00 Ashton Kemerling <ashtonkemerl...@gmail.com>:

>  I tweeted recently that I thought that Clojure is super testable, and I
> was genuinely surprised about the number of people who disagreed with me.
>
> There's been a lively discussion about what the best testing frameworks in
> clojure currently are, and what the built in solutions (clojure.test and
> test.check) are lacking. While a lot of people recommend midje or
> expectations, I generally prefer the built in options (no offense to
> contributors of either of those libraries) and usually recommend people
> stick with clojure.test for its lack of magic.
>
> It's my opinion that these two libraries are largely complete aside from
> some human interface improvements (quality of output for example), but
> clearly not everyone agrees with me.
>
> So let's talk about what we could add to make the clojure testing
> experience superior compared to other languages.
>
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