Yes, I am in support of the fact that size=2 vectors now can now have `key` 
and `val` called on them.  This not working prior to Clojure 1.8 was 
occasionally the reason why I just used `first` and `second` instead of 
`key` and `val` before since some function transformations could result in 
size=2 vectors rather than true map entries.

I think that supporting `empty` on MapEntry is weird, as Alex said above. 
 It does sound the same as the record case. 

The only frustration I have with this change is that not all 
APersistentVectors really act as a map entry.  Only those of size=2 do.  So 
the interface becomes misleading if you try to use it to figure out from a 
generic standpoint, what things are map entries and what things aren't. 
 The ambiguity is that all vectors look like map entries.  I guess you 
could do the 
(instance? IMapEntry x) check along with (== 2 (count x)) for the vector 
case...

On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 6:39:50 AM UTC-5, Alex Miller wrote:
>
>
> On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 3:32:43 AM UTC-5, Pierre-Yves Ritschard 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike, 
>>
>> The code at here seems to contradict you: 
>>
>> https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/master/src/jvm/clojure/lang/APersistentVector.java#L448-L460,
>>  
>>
>> as does "(key [:a :b])" in the REPL. 
>>
>> The only limitation is that vectors need to be of size two to act as 
>> IMapEntries (otherwise an IllegalOperation exception is thrown). 
>>
>> The change seems logical and allows key & val to be used more 
>> generically. 
>>
>> You're right that will fail on code that checks for (instance? 
>> IMapEntry). 
>>
>
> APersistentVector implements IMapEntry, so this doesn't seem correct.
>  
>
>> A good alternative - paging Alex Miller - could be for (empty) on a 
>> MapEntry to return an empty PersistentVector instead of nil, which would 
>> ensure that calls to (into (empty <map-entry>) (map f <map-entry>)) 
>> would return a valid map entry (instead of a collection). 
>>
>
> It does not make sense to me for empty on a MapEntry to do what you ask 
> (for similar reasons why empty on a record is not allowed).
>  
>
>> I'm happy to create a ticket for this use-case if deemed valid. 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>>   - pyr 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2015 01:28 AM, Mike Rodriguez wrote: 
>> > Someone else looked at the issue on 
>> https://github.com/ztellman/riddley/issues/18 
>> > 
>> > This issue makes the current version of riddley, and therefore 
>> potemkin, not work on Clojure 1.8 beta1 
>> > 
>> > There is a pull request to fix it at 
>> https://github.com/ztellman/riddley/pull/19 
>> > 
>> > However I am wondering if it is going to affect more places. The 
>> problem is that in Clojuee 1.8 APersistentVector now implements IMapEntry 
>> (therefore j.u.Map$Entry as well), but it doesn't implement the key or val 
>> methods. 
>> > What is the reason for that change and/or is this a desired side effect 
>> of the change? 
>> > 
>>
>

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