Perhaps having a "map-entry?" predicate that was smarter would be helpful.

On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 9:39:09 AM UTC-5, Mike Rodriguez wrote:
>
> Yes, I am in support of the fact that size=2 vectors now can now have 
> `key` and `val` called on them.  This not working prior to Clojure 1.8 was 
> occasionally the reason why I just used `first` and `second` instead of 
> `key` and `val` before since some function transformations could result in 
> size=2 vectors rather than true map entries.
>
> I think that supporting `empty` on MapEntry is weird, as Alex said above. 
>  It does sound the same as the record case. 
>
> The only frustration I have with this change is that not all 
> APersistentVectors really act as a map entry.  Only those of size=2 do.  So 
> the interface becomes misleading if you try to use it to figure out from a 
> generic standpoint, what things are map entries and what things aren't. 
>  The ambiguity is that all vectors look like map entries.  I guess you 
> could do the 
> (instance? IMapEntry x) check along with (== 2 (count x)) for the vector 
> case...
>
> On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 6:39:50 AM UTC-5, Alex Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 16, 2015 at 3:32:43 AM UTC-5, Pierre-Yves Ritschard 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mike, 
>>>
>>> The code at here seems to contradict you: 
>>>
>>> https://github.com/clojure/clojure/blob/master/src/jvm/clojure/lang/APersistentVector.java#L448-L460,
>>>  
>>>
>>> as does "(key [:a :b])" in the REPL. 
>>>
>>> The only limitation is that vectors need to be of size two to act as 
>>> IMapEntries (otherwise an IllegalOperation exception is thrown). 
>>>
>>> The change seems logical and allows key & val to be used more 
>>> generically. 
>>>
>>> You're right that will fail on code that checks for (instance? 
>>> IMapEntry). 
>>>
>>
>> APersistentVector implements IMapEntry, so this doesn't seem correct.
>>  
>>
>>> A good alternative - paging Alex Miller - could be for (empty) on a 
>>> MapEntry to return an empty PersistentVector instead of nil, which would 
>>> ensure that calls to (into (empty <map-entry>) (map f <map-entry>)) 
>>> would return a valid map entry (instead of a collection). 
>>>
>>
>> It does not make sense to me for empty on a MapEntry to do what you ask 
>> (for similar reasons why empty on a record is not allowed).
>>  
>>
>>> I'm happy to create a ticket for this use-case if deemed valid. 
>>>
>>> Cheers, 
>>>   - pyr 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2015 01:28 AM, Mike Rodriguez wrote: 
>>> > Someone else looked at the issue on 
>>> https://github.com/ztellman/riddley/issues/18 
>>> > 
>>> > This issue makes the current version of riddley, and therefore 
>>> potemkin, not work on Clojure 1.8 beta1 
>>> > 
>>> > There is a pull request to fix it at 
>>> https://github.com/ztellman/riddley/pull/19 
>>> > 
>>> > However I am wondering if it is going to affect more places. The 
>>> problem is that in Clojuee 1.8 APersistentVector now implements IMapEntry 
>>> (therefore j.u.Map$Entry as well), but it doesn't implement the key or val 
>>> methods. 
>>> > What is the reason for that change and/or is this a desired side 
>>> effect of the change? 
>>> > 
>>>
>>

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