On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Giles Sirett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Animesh
> 
> This is  a topic that we discuss a lot with customers. We have many customers 
> who have evaluated both OS and CS and then choose CS.
> 
> The customers that we work with like CS because it is a "product" that has 
> many real world deployments, as opposed to OS, which is (IMO) a "code 
> project"  only right now
> 
> The way I see it at the moment is it is wholly dependant on use-case:
> 
> If you are a major vendor (with a massive budget)  who wants to create a 
> propriety stack of your own (abstracted from the underlying core code), then 
> OS does offer a lot.  But it requires a lot of work to get it in a usable 
> state. Great if you want to make it your own thing, but not great if you have 
> the usual, real world, time and cost constraints.
> 
> However, many organisations (both public cloud providers such as telcos and 
> private cloud operators) want something that they can lift "out of the box" 
> quickly and easily. That’s where CS wins hands down at the moment.
> 
> One of the most interesting anecdotes that I have is a media company  over 
> here in UK. One of their lead architects is a OS guru (he wrote the 
> "Openstack cookbook" and now works for Rackspace!) and tried for months and 
> months to build them a small production cloud (including buying professional 
> services to help). They eventually gave up, and we built them a CS cloud in a 
> matter of days.
> 
> We've got some case-studies coming out in the next few weeks which we'd be 
> happy to share with the community

Giles, Yes please. We need more case studies. In general, we need users of CS 
to more vocal about how they are using it.

I am happy to help anyone who wants to write  a case study and publish it 
openly.

-sebastien

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> Giles
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 23 January 2013 19:11
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] "Arming" cloudstack supporters in "stack war" 
> bakeoffs....
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alex Huang [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:54 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] "Arming" cloudstack supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs....
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I like to discuss with the community how we can best "arm" cloudstack
>> supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs.  This is due to Ilya's email
>> thread.  I think his question and others like it will be repeated
>> often.  The community suggested an objective process to evaluate the
>> various stacks: bakeoffs, which I'm supportive of.  But it make sense that 
>> people don't just enter into
>> these bake-offs blind.   We should provide them with the information,
>> experience and process to properly conduct cloudstack in these bakeoffs.
>> However, I'm not sure what's the right combination to provide.  So I
>> like to start this topic to see what the community thinks.
>> 
>> I asked this during cloudstack-meeting and Chip suggested Dave's runbook.
>> That's a good starting point.  Is there any other suggestions?
>> 
>> There's a top level section in our wiki that makes sense for this.
>> After we come up with the right combination, we can update the wiki
>> and continue to update the wiki with more information.
>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Newbie
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> --Alex
> 
> Folks wearing project management hats can you share any success stories and 
> real customer experience and reasoning in choosing cloudstack publically?
> 
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