Sebastien, You nailed it. What you described are the most common issues that people face when deploying CS.
1) Proposition - we need to add a "help" or "question mark sign" across our terms - that will launch a small pop-up and educate an end users and provide a link or point of reference to the web for more info. 2) If we can have the help pages distributed with CS in HTML format - that will certain simplify and help the new on-boarder with learning new concepts. - "Advanced Network Setup" wizard - at least for the VmWare portion - I've had several issues where I had to fall back to API calls to complete what GUI could not. I think I should do a video on that to explain the concept a little better and do a walkthrough - as well as file bug reports for the GUI issues. - DHCP/DNS is another issue we need to address especially for the environments that use their own DHCP and DNS servers (corporate). I recall we had this discussed before on users ML - we should probably document this better. Regards ilya -----Original Message----- From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] "Arming" cloudstack supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs.... On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Alex Huang <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I like to discuss with the community how we can best "arm" cloudstack > supporters in "stack war" bakeoffs. This is due to Ilya's email thread. I > think his question and others like it will be repeated often. The community > suggested an objective process to evaluate the various stacks: bakeoffs, > which I'm supportive of. But it make sense that people don't just enter into > these bake-offs blind. We should provide them with the information, > experience and process to properly conduct cloudstack in these bakeoffs. > However, I'm not sure what's the right combination to provide. So I like to > start this topic to see what the community thinks. > > I asked this during cloudstack-meeting and Chip suggested Dave's runbook. > That's a good starting point. Is there any other suggestions? > Alex, I believe the runbook was not updated after the 4.0 release, so it needs patching. I also think it describes an advanced zone. >From my recent experience folks who try CloudStack struggle with: -Basic vs. Advanced. Some folks dive straight into advanced and hit the wall on vlans. -Network connectivity of the systemVMs. This is still not clearly explained. We need better diagrams, and clear explanation. Maybe a good blog on this would work wonders. -If you have existing DHCP,DNS services how do you deploy cloudstack with it. This is a typical case at universities, where students don't have access to the network. They just have couple boxes with static IPs and no VLANS. -Documentation issues. Some folks on Ubtuntu have been hit with https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-460 which is patched in master, but not reflected in the deb on the repo. We need to check our processes to update blockers like these faster. -Finally, DevCloud. It's a great tool, but has limitations (ttylinux) and like Mike is facing now, if you have not followed the threads on devcloud over the last 6 months, you may not have a clear picture of how to use it. -sebastien > There's a top level section in our wiki that makes sense for this. After we > come up with the right combination, we can update the wiki and continue to > update the wiki with more information. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Newbie > > Thanks. > > --Alex >
