Estaaaa bien! Las Ferrari son para los que tienen guita. La tienen cerradita sobre una plataforma, nadie te dice si el andar es incomodo o si los cambios son duros, eso no importa. Lo que importa es que VS ande sobre eso y el resto, el tiempo lo dirá.
Saludos GallegO 2010/7/22 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>: > Yo estuvo ahí en la charla. James Robertson la filmó, así que subirá el > video a su sitio (si ya no lo hizo). > > La verdad es que la charla estuvo buena, pero hasta ahí nomas. O sea, > comentaron las ventajas y las cosas buenas que tiene. Pero...no comentaron > nada a nivel técnico ni implementativo. > Lo peor (pobre) fue que Frank estaba muy enfermo y sin voz... > > Claramente tienen una visión totalmente distinta a la mía, pero la acepto > completamente. Les tiro las puntas que YO entendí: > > - No es, ni nunca va a ser open-source > - Supuestamente son mas rapidos que todos. Pero, cuando le pregutamos sobre > benchmarks o "cuanto" mas rapido eran, la respuesta fue que era info > sensible y que solo se lo decían a sus clientes > - Supuestamente la migración es posta, facil y anda > - La VM soportaría varios lenguages. No sólo dialectos Smalltalk, pero sino > otros lenguajes. Onda como podes hacer un connector para Ruby en > Gemstone....lo que deberias hacer es el bytecode transofrmation creo, no > estoy seguro. > - Multithread and multiprocess > - The VM is written in Assembly, not C. > - Only windows for the moment, but just because they clients run windows. > They said everything will be on demand, when someone pays. If a client wants > Linux, they will do it. If the client wants a multithredaded debugger, they > will do it....etc > - Podrias tener varias imagenes, incluso de dialectos distintos, corriendo > en cpus o thredas distintos, y enviarse mensajes de uno a otro. > > bueno, eso es mas o menos lo que yo entendí. Tal vez la realidad sea un poco > parecida ;) > > Saludos > > Mariano > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Me suena muy raro que no hayan publicado tan importante anuncio en la >> lista de Dolphin, como que tampoco se haya hablado del tema en la >> "twittosfera". >> >> El hermetismo no me cae muy simpático, será cuestion de SEGUIR >> esperando, y tal vez para fin de año se abra la caja de Pandora. >> >> Saludos. >> >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> 2010/7/21 Leo De Marco <[email protected]> >> > >> > Para los que esten en Londres! >> > >> > > -----Mensaje original----- >> > > De: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE- >> > > [email protected]] En nombre de Alejandro F. Reimondo >> > > Enviado el: miércoles, 21 de julio de 2010 08:57 a.m. >> > > Para: [email protected] >> > > Asunto: Next Generation @ Camp Smalltalk London >> > > >> > > Hi all, >> > > >> > > After weeks of work in Berlin and committing important bussiness in >> > > England, >> > > my partner Frank Lesser and me attended Camp Smalltalk London [1]. >> > > We made at the Camp the first presentation about our >> > > Next Generation platform [2]. >> > > We had full audience! It is really nice to see how much >> > > smalltalkers are interested in facing a fresh future for smalltalk! >> > > >> > > We have shown our VM running and made an informal presentation >> > > of some low level details of the platform and promoted conversation >> > > about what we call the next Generation of Smalltalk technology, >> > > how it can impact in smalltalk world and the benefits of the business >> > > plan I designed in the last years that make real zero cost >> > > portability >> > > technically possible between smalltalk platforms (and other). >> > > Frank have shown slides related with the history of our enterprise, >> > > also some information about previous VMs and commented about the >> > > limitations imposed by choosing intermediate languages (like C) >> > > in our old VMs, and a few words about features that was possible >> > > to implement in our new version of the VM (we have released version >> > > 2.0) >> > > with our assembler to build the VM (speed matters but it is >> > > not the only reason to use our ASM). [3] >> > > I talked about our compromise with Smalltalk History and how >> > > it was considered in the design of our strategy to face the near >> > > future, >> > > also talked about our inmediate plans and how our VM can be used >> > > to host simultaneously diferent smalltalk platform without loosing >> > > perfomance and exchanging information. >> > > We also shown at the camp the Expresso framework and how >> > > VSE applications run hosted by our VM in minutes. >> > > >> > > We will make the next presentations of the platform in our Event in >> > > Tarvisio (Italy) at end of September of this year. >> > > Contact us if your company is interested in our technology >> > > and/or you want to attend the event this year [4], we need >> > > to know in advance how much people will attend and >> > > also send you information and conditions we need to >> > > agree to use our platform at the event. >> > > The Tarvisio event is designed to understand, explore and try >> > > our platform from the inside. This year we will make focus on >> > > workshops >> > > to exploit the new features, try integration frameworks and as usual >> > > (the >> > > most >> > > important topics...) migration and maintenance. >> > > The workshop on VM internals, migration and new features are included >> > > as in the Round-0 event last year. [5] >> > > >> > > I wish to thank the excellent care and kindness of the people of >> > > Pinesoft, >> > > Cincom, ESUG and Instantiations. >> > > We ahve had dinner at the ABSOLUTE Icebar (soponsored by Cincom) >> > > but couldn't enter in the Icenbar because Frank was ill and we needed >> > > to return hotel. Hope will be another opportunity soon to visit! :-) >> > > >> > > Also a big thank to James Robertson that made us a postcast >> > > we are anxious and waiting for the media for people >> > > that could'nt be there. >> > > James made a montage of the entire Camp Smalltalk event [6]. >> > > >> > > with best regards, >> > > Ale. >> > > >> > > [1] http://cslondon2010.eventbrite.com/ >> > > [2] http://www.dng.st >> > > [3] http://www.dng.st/gvm.htm >> > > [4] http://www.dng.st/impressum.htm >> > > [5] http://www.dng.st/tarvisio_2009_report.htm >> > > [6] http://www.jarober.com/blog/blogView >> > > >> > > *** this signature added by listserv *** >> > > *** Visit http://www.listserv.dfn.de/archives/vswe-l.html *** >> > > *** for archive browsing and VSWE-L membership management *** >> > >> > >> > -- >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > http://www.clubSmalltalk.org >> >> -- >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.clubSmalltalk.org > > -- > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > http://www.clubSmalltalk.org -- To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] http://www.clubSmalltalk.org
