Hi Tracey,

This is a good point and I'm glad you brought it up as it is worth 
discussing further.  My post eluded to increased risk from a high 
Sokal score.  Data presented at ASH this year showed the surprising 
result that Sokal scores continue to be a strong prognostic indicator 
even in the Gleevec era.  

For some background, Sokal scores (and later Hasford scores) were 
used back when Hydrea and later IFN were the treatment options of 
choice.  More recently however, the Sokal ranking system has pretty 
much been replaced by % blasts by most Heme/oncs.  The blast 
percentage is used to determine the staging of the disease (chronic, 
accelerated, blast) and therefore the associated risk for that stage.

The interesting thing about the Sokal score is that it can be used to 
screen patients in the same stage with similar % blasts.

My assumption, was that John (like myself) would have an elevated 
Sokal score for a CP patient because of his 486,000 WBC.  It would 
surprise me for example that someone would have such a high WBC and 
not associated Sokal factors such as a large spleen. I wasn't sure 
though, which was why I asked if he also had a large spleen. 

For those who are interested, the Sokal score can be calculated using 
the following forumula:

Relative risk = 0.0016(Age - 43.4) + 0.0345(spleen size in cm -
7.51) + 0.188[(platelets/700)2 - 0.563] + 0.0887(blasts - 2.10)
Low risk: <0.8 High risk: >1.2

Regards,
Mark




--- In [email protected], "traceyincanada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> To my knowledge, the WBC has no effect on risk or prognosis.  I've 
> seen patients with WBC's in the 500's who were in solid chronic 
> phase and others with a WBC of 12 in blast phase.  A more accurate 
> indication of risk is platelet count, blast count and basophil 
count 
> and spleen size.
> 
> I just didn't want John to worry unnessesarily.
> 
> Take care,
> Tracey
> 
> --- In [email protected], "mpetersen123" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >> Hi John,
> > 
> > Be aware that with such a high WBC count you'll likely be in a 
> > slightly higher risk group so it's a good idea to have more 
> frequent > WBC and PCRs.





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