Greenie:

Glad that only the car got hurt!  Our 25 year old daughter just moved back in 
because she has two broken ankles from SKYDIVING.  I think there is something 
wrong with the picture - mom with CML and dad with heart problems, both working 
full time, taking care of the non weight bearing adventurer!  She's a solo 
diver and in the next year a group is diving for dollars for LLS. 

Stay well and careful driving. 

MARCIE

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On Nov 9, 2012, at 4:14 PM, myvet...@aol.com wrote:

> The bottom line is what works for some folks does not mean it's going to work 
> for others.  I'm only glad that all of you that stopped the meds. things are 
> working out for you.  I stopped Gleevec for 26 days back in 2010 and my blood 
> work showed that the cells were popping up again.  Guess I'll be on it until 
> I take my ride in my Corvette up into the sky to Corvette heaven.  A few 
> weeks ago I was sitting at a stop light with a truck in front of me with a 
> BIG TRAILER HITCH BALL ON THE BACK.  He takes of then stops dead, of course I 
> didn't.  $6330.00 damage to the front in.  Then he takes off.  I don't think 
> he was from this Country that's why he left.  I just picked up it up a few 
> hours ago.  Looks o.k. the paint matches. Silver is a hard color to match, I 
> used to paint Corvettes, I think that's where I got my CML from painting 
> cars..
>  
> You all take care,
>  
> greenie
>  
> In a message dated 11/9/2012 10:03:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> rszim0...@aol.com writes:
> Along with Richard, I had problems with gleevec.  I was diagnosed on February 
> 14, 2005.  Went on gleevec after two weeks of hydroxyrea.  Was on gleevec for 
> 2 1/2 years before having a brain bleed, so on my own decided to refuse all 
> medication.  I had been in complete remission for 2 years at that time.  
> Never missed a dose of gleevec, took it religiously in spite of all side 
> affects.  My docs did not agree with me going off this, but went along.  I 
> get checked every 3 months for my counts, still in cellular remission.  I had 
> a few bcr/abl tests since coming off the medicine.  They showed slowly coming 
> out of remission.  I've had two more brain bleeds since then, and a final 
> full-blown stroke in March of 2009.  Thank goodness I have recovered from the 
> stroke with minimal damage to my left side.  Still weak but moveable.  I will 
> go back on medication if I come out of cellular remission, but am enjoying 
> every day without it.  That is 5 1/2 years without gleevec and counting.  
> Thank you, God!
> 
> 18's,
> Susan F. Zimmerman
> "Look among the nations and watch; be utterly astounded!  For I will work a 
> work in your days which you would not believe, though it were told you."  
> Hab. 1:5
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard H <richard1huff...@comcast.net>
> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 11:17 pm
> Subject: [CMLHope] Re: update on how many years we have been fighting CML
> 
> The reason my ONC agreed to let me go without a CML medication is because I 
> was having problems with Gleevec.  When we discussed our options in 2008.  He 
> and I agreed to see how long it would be before my PCR indicated that I 
> should be on medication.  That was 4 years ago and my counts remain at a low 
> level.  I have included my history.
>  
>  
> Richard H.
> dxd 2/2003
> 400mg Gleevec 3/2003
> Undetectable 11/03
> RT-PCR negative 11/04
> QT-PCR .003 11/05
> RBC 8.
> Gleevec Vacation 11/06-6/07
> Iron infusion 11/06
> Transfusions 12/06-5/07
> QT-PCR .7 1/08
> Gleevec 1/08 -5/08
> Procrit 8/08-11/08
> Gleevec Vacation 7/08-Pressent
> QT-PCR .3 4/09
> QT-PCR .15 6/09
> QT-PCR .21 9/09
> QT-PCR .28 1/10
> QT-PCR .1+ 4/10
> QT-PCR .468 10/10
> QT-PCR .468 2/11
> QT-PCR .323 8/011
> QT-PCR .261 2//2012
> QT-PCR .241 8/12
> Next QT-PCR 4/2013
> 
> On Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:08:28 AM UTC-6, Draz wrote:
>> Congrats on the 9th year
>> 
>> I myself only got diagnosed last year July so 1.5 years almost. I have been 
>> using Glivec for 4 days and then got switched to Tasigna, normal levels of 
>> white cells within 2 weeks (309 starting value), spleen back to normal in 3 
>> months and complete molecular response was reached last february.
>> I have no idea how long I'll have to take the medication but I'm not 
>> experiencing any side effects at all (at start some itchiness but a good 
>> scrub and skinpeeling session with doctor fish cleared that up for good) so 
>> I have no problem taking them. At the moment I'm enrolled at several extra 
>> research options in the hospital and countrywide, which basically means for 
>> the next 2 years I'll be doing bonemarrow sampling every third month and 
>> bloodwork once per month. My body can handle the damage and if it helps 
>> someone else go for it.
>> 
>> I have accepted the fact it might be for life (testing/medication/all that 
>> jazz) and accepted the fact getting kids will be difficult but I heard that 
>> after a period people stop with the medication and try without... is this 
>> even advised?
>> 
>> - Draz
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:40:42 PM UTC+1, Jeanie wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yahooooooooooooooooooooooo Jan will be my 9th year of my fight against CML.
>>> 5 Years on Gleevec
>>> Few Months On Tasigna
>>> Almost 4 Years On Sprycel
>>> Miracles do happen.
>>> Jeanie<3
>>> Would like to hear from everyone on their years on certain CML Drugs?
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 10/27/2012 5:46:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>> rszi...@aol.com writes:
>>> 5 1/2 years free of gleevec and still in cellular remission, I AM A 
>>> MIRACLE.  To God be the glory.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Susan F. Zimmerman
>>> "Look among the nations and watch; be utterly astounded!  For I will work a 
>>> work in your days which you would not believe, though it were told you."  
>>> Hab. 1:5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
>>> To: cmlhope <cml...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2012 5:20 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Why are my posts not coming through?
>>> 
>>> Dear Susan,
>>> 
>>> If you should ever need this new drug then at least you know about it. 
>>> However, I hope that you can just continue to be off all drugs and do well.
>>> 
>>> Susan, you are a miracle! 
>>> 
>>> 18's
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Susan Zimmerman <rszi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Thank you Marty for the article on both new drugs.  My oncologist told me 
>>>> bosutinib was for something else altogether and he certainly never heard 
>>>> of the newest one either.  Makes me think I need to change docs.  He's 
>>>> never used anything except gleevec and sprycel.  I'm the one still off all 
>>>> meds, and when or if I need it I choose tasigna or one of the two new 
>>>> ones....due to unusual bleeding.  We'll see!  Think  I'll call for my 
>>>> doc's e-mail on Monday and send your article to him.  Thanks again.
>>>> 18's to you,
>>>> 
>>>> Susan F. Zimmerman
>>>> "Look among the nations and watch; be utterly astounded!  For I will work 
>>>> a work in your days which you would not believe, though it were told you." 
>>>>  Hab. 1:5
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: cmlhope <cml...@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2012 2:54 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Why are my posts not coming through?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Millie,
>>>> 
>>>> As you can see your post to me did come through. Thank you for your reply.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to answer your questions and comments so I will write in 
>>>> between your lines in CAPS.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM, C.M. Houtz <ho...@ptd.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Marty.....Please let me know if this post gets through to you.  I 
>>>>> received  your message about the new drug that's out, and was going to 
>>>>> write last night and thank you for sending out the information, but got 
>>>>> tired, shut down, and went to bed.  I've been in a lot of pain lately, 
>>>>> and laying down seems to help.
>>>> 
>>>> YES I KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THE PAIN YOUR HAVING, AND I AM REALLY SORRY TO 
>>>> HEAR THAT. I PRAY THAT IT WILL EASE UP ON YOU. I ALSO HAVE SOME TERRIBLE 
>>>> PAIN IN MY BACK AND JUST LIKE YOU I HAVE TO LAY DOWN IN BED TO EASE IT. I 
>>>> SOMETIMES USE A HEATING PAD AND IT WORKS BUT ONLY TEMPORARILY. I EVEN WENT 
>>>> TO A MASSAGE  THERIPIST AND THAT SEEMED TO HELP BUT JUST TEMPORARILY AS 
>>>> WELL. I TRY NOT TO TAKE ANY PAIN MEDICATION BECAUSE OF MY KIDNEY FAILURE 
>>>> AND IT WOULD INTERFERE WITH MY DIALYSIS TREATMENTS
>>>>>   I was using a pain patch (Lidocaine) and stopped as when I took it off 
>>>>> a couple of weeks ago, there was blood on the patch.  My cardiologist 
>>>>> said that it was probably because of my thinning skin.
>>>> 
>>>> MILLIE, WHY DON'T YOU TRY SOMETHING CALLED BAG BALM ON THE SKIN THAT IS 
>>>> BLEEDING. JUST DON'T PUT ANYTHING ON IT UNTIL IT STARTS TO HEAL. BAG BALM 
>>>> IS VERY GREASY SO NOTHING WILL BE ABLE TO STICK TO IT. IT'S ORIGINAL USE 
>>>> WAS FOR COWS UTTERS ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER WHEN THEY ARE CHAPPED BUT IT 
>>>> REALLY WORKS WELL FOR ANY SKIN PROBLEMS. IT COMES IN TWO SIZES. MAKE SURE 
>>>> TO BUY THE SMALL SIZE BECAUSE IT WILL LAST FOREVER. JUST A DAB WILL DO YOU 
>>>> AS THEY SAY. IT COMES IN A GREEN SQUARE CAN AND CAN PROBABLY BE PURCHASED 
>>>> AT SOME OF THE LARGE DRUG CHAINS LIKE CVS OR WALGREENS.
>>>>  
>>>>>   I didn't use them all of the time, but maybe once or twice a week.  I 
>>>>> may try it again when it is all healed.  Don't know yet!  At any rate, 
>>>>> trying to control the pain is difficult and I don't like to take a lot of 
>>>>> the Vicoden, so limit myself to once or twice a day. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> I hope that this finds you doing okay.  I know that you go through a      
>>>>>         lot and that you are a very strong person.
>>>> 
>>>> ACTUALLY MILLIE, ANYONE THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH ANYTHING LIKE YOU OR ME IS 
>>>> AUTOMATICALLY A STRONG PERSON. WE DIDN'T ASK TO BE SICK BUT NOW THAT WE 
>>>> ARE WE JUST HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH IT.
>>>>  
>>>>>   I think of  you when I'm hurting and know it's nothing compared to what 
>>>>> you have to deal with.  You are always here for all of us, and I know you 
>>>>> are appreciated by all.
>>>> 
>>>> MILLIE, I AM NO DIFFERENT FROM YOU OR ANYONE ELSE. WE JUST HAVE TO DO 
>>>> WHATEVER WE CAN TO JUST KEEP ON GOING. AGAIN I AM VERY SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT 
>>>> YOUR PAIN. I HOPE THAT IT WILL GET BETTER REAL SOON.  
>>>>>  
>>>>> We have a bad storm headed out way, and it looks like the whole state of 
>>>>> PA will be involved.  I'm only hoping that it won't last to long and not 
>>>>> cause a lot of damage.  I worry about the trees coming              down 
>>>>> on the house, but there's nothing I can do about that either.  My  middle 
>>>>> son always tells me that worry doesn't help anything....or stop anything 
>>>>> from happening.  I know that he's right.  Actually, he and his family 
>>>>> live in New Jersey and will get more of the storm then we will.
>>>> 
>>>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR MIDDLE SON IS A BRIGHT PERSON. YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE 
>>>> SOME ADVICE FROM HIM BECAUSE WORRYING CAN DO NOTHING FOR YOU BUT TO JUST 
>>>> MAKE YOU UPSET. I ALSO HAVE A HOME IN PA AS YOU ALREADY KNOW AND IF 
>>>> SOMETHING HAPPENS TO IT WELL AT LEAST I'M NOT IN IT AND NITHER ARE MY 
>>>> FAMILY. INSURANCE IS WHAT IS NEEDED AND I HAVE IT SO I JUST CAN'T WORRY 
>>>> ABOUT IT. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> You take care, and let me know how you're doing.  I do keep you in my 
>>>>> prayers and think of you often.  Were you able to get to PA this year?
>>>> 
>>>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS. YES WE DID GO UP TO PA THIS PAST SUMMER. IT 
>>>> WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE MUST DRIVE ALL THE WAY UP THERE. WE 
>>>> SPEND TWO NIGHTS OUT AT MOTELS BECAUSE I RAISE CANARIES AND HAVE ABOUT TEN 
>>>> OF THEM RIGHT NOW. I HAD MORE THEN FIFTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO BUT IT WAS TO 
>>>> DIFFICULT TO MANAGE ALL OF THEM. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT ARE ALSO 
>>>> INTO CANARIES SO I WAS ABLE TO FINF THEM VERY GOOD HOMES. I ALSO HAVE A 
>>>> BEAUTIFUL DOG THAT I RESCUED FROM A KILL SHELTER FIVE YEARS AGO. 
>>>> 
>>>> I ALSO HAD TO MAKE ARRAINGMENTS FOR MY DIALYSIS TREATMENTS, AND THERE IS A 
>>>> DIALYSIS CLINIC IN A TOWN CALLED HONESDALE PA ABOUT TWENTY FIVE MILES FROM 
>>>> WHERE I LIVE.
>>>>>  
>>>>> 18's to you,
>>>>> Millie
>>>> 
>>>> AND 18'S TO YOU AS WELL.
>>>> 
>>>> Marty 
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