Marty, sorry you've been through such a painful time but so glad you are doing 
better. Thoughts and prayers are with you. 

18s

Marcie

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> On May 5, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> HI Suzieq
> 
> From my understanding The first patent for Gleevec expires in July 2015. This 
> is the earliest predictable date that a generic version could become 
> available. However this will probably be something that Novartis will fight 
> and make some minor changes to it and maybe refilled it again. They will 
> loose a lot of money so you can bet they intend to do something about it, or 
> maybe they will give everyone a break with the cost of it. Only the future 
> will tell.
> 
>   I read your post and I would like to comment on the second statement that 
> you made.
> First some people just don't know how to speak to people. Even this doctor 
> that you mentioned. They give false and stupid advice especially to the newly 
> diagnosed. By saying that she will be cured in one year is observed and gives 
> false hope. 
> 
> You are correct about her looking for a new onc that specializes in CML. 
> However as I have said many times it is my feeling that CML will be cured in 
> the near future. If so I would love to say, I told you so, and I will!.
> 
> Then you made a comment that goes against my grain, and that was that you 
> thought that you were going to die because of all the side effects. I hope 
> that you remember me saying that CML poisons your body as well as your mind. 
> 
> Your mind is a very powerful tool to be able to help yourself. I would like 
> for you and everyone to read this.
> 
>  
> EXPECT THE BEST, MIND OVER MATTER. SUCCESS IS A FUNCTION OF SELF CONFIDENCE. 
> TO HAVE SUCCESS AT ANYTHING YOU MUST FIRST LEARN TO BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. IF 
> YOU EXPECT THE WORSE THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL GET (MIND OVER 
> MATTER) IF YOU EXPECT THE BEST THEN THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL GET.
> 
> WHAT WE HAVE TO LEARN TO DO IS TO CHANGE OUR MENTAL HABITS, OUR STATES OF 
> MIND. LEARN TO EXPECT AND NOT TO DOUBT. BY DOING THIS YOU BRING EVERYTHING 
> INTO THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY. WHEN YOU LEARN TO BELIEVE THEN WHAT YOU 
> THOUGHT TO BE IMPOSSIBLE THEN MOVES INTO THE AREA OF POSSIBILITY.
> 
> EVERY GREAT THING EVENTUALLY BECOMES POSSIBLE FOR YOU. MY BELIEF AT THE 
> BEGINNING OF A DOUBTFUL UNDERTAKING IS THE ONE THING THAT INSURES THE 
> SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME...
> 
> FOCUS...
> 
> How do you think that I was able to have a bone marrow transplant and living 
> in a small plastic bubble that was in the hospital for seven months? It is 
> because I was able to use my mind to focus...
> 
> Why do you think that I always end any of my posts with 18's? Well, it is 
> because it means life, and that is positive thinking.
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
> 
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Suzieq <sheila.a.wat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello there fellow CML Survivors:   
>> 
>>  My 1st question: Does anyone know about the patent on Gleevec and if it's 
>> about to expire?  I was thinking it had up till this month,  or the last 
>> time I saw the information on it, I thought their extension ended sometime 
>> in May of 2015.  I don't remember where it was that we could go and look at 
>> that information.   I told my husband that I thought for sure the price 
>> would drop on Gleevec by now,  but from what I've seen from some new cases,  
>> it looks as if it's increased in price.  Course,  I didn't see the quantity 
>> that the price was for,  that could make a difference, I'm sure. 
>> 
>> 2nd question: How many TKI's are there now for CML (approved and also those 
>> in trials)?  There are two groups I am in on Facebook and so many new cases 
>> being dx'ed every day that it's just unreal.  I get upset with some of the 
>> CML Survivors in these groups and what they will tell these newly dx'ed 
>> people who seem scared to death & looking for good information.  I even 
>> talked to my doctor about some of this stuff that they are saying.  One told 
>> a new dx'ed person that his doctor told him when he was first dx'ed,  "well, 
>> will put you on this drug (didn't specify which one) and you will take it 
>> every day. This and this will happen and you'll be cured within a year."  I 
>> about came unglued when I read that.  And,  I made sure in my comment to 
>> this newly dx'ed person when I was trying to uplift her and give her advice 
>> of what I went through and what helped me over the past 11 years that I 
>> would be very leary of any doctor who told me that I would be "cured" in a 
>> year!  Infact, I would be finding another Hem./Onc quickly.  I told her that 
>> as far as I knew,  there still is no cure for CML that they know of. That 
>> these drugs are too new and not enough research to let them know if it might 
>> be a cure one day.  I told her that you can become "undetected" or "non 
>> detected" after being on the TKI's after some time.  I told her that I call 
>> it a "drug induced remission" (those are my words, not a doctors, lol).  
>> There are these "so called experts" who have CML and looked at all the info 
>> and try and tell the new ones that there's studies going on and some seemed 
>> to be cured. (that's false information)  My doctor told me (and I have read 
>> the info, too) that the one study that was done in England, I believe it 
>> was, had several go off their Gleevec.  Within a year's time, 50% had their 
>> CML return.  I'm thinking that discussion I had with her (doctor) was about 
>> 2 & 1/2 years ago when I asked to lower my Gleevec dosage.   
>> 
>> I always mention this group to those in the groups on FaceBook.  I tell them 
>> that after I was dx'ed in January 2004 & started Gleevec soon there after,  
>> I thought I was going to die because of the awful side effects.  I said that 
>> I spent most of my time lying on my living room sofa or before the throne in 
>> the bathroom.  After about 4 months of this,  I accidently run upon this 
>> group(CML Hope) on line and it is what "saved" me.  Back then,  I think 
>> Gleevec was the only drug at the time besides the trials for Tasigna & 
>> Sprycel.  We all had each other to help & we did.  Whatever we found that 
>> helped relieve a certain side effect, we shared.  What worked for trying to 
>> keep food down,  we shared.  If someone needed help explaining all the tests 
>> and those numbers, we shared.   
>> 
>> So you see,  I still appreciate each and every one of you.  I miss those 
>> who've gone on before us.  God bless you and please have a wonderful day 
>> today.  Thank you 
>> 
>> Keep Looking up,
>> Breath in, Breath out, Move Forward,
>> 
>> Suzieq
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